Since we have a favorite players thread, I thought I'd throw in a little negative spin... recognize, you need not limit yourselves to only players...

• Harry Frazee (an obvious one)
• John MacNamara
• Spike Owen (I hated the Spork with a passion)
• Joe Hudson (every time he entered a game, many baserunners, few outs.)
• Damon Buford (why did he face Rivera in the '99 ALCS?)
• Roger Clemens
• Grady Little
• Lou Gorman sucked too.

That's my list.

• Yawkey - only for his covert racism that tarnished the organization for decades. Only started to drop that stigma in the mid to late 90's. (This is the only thing about Yawkey that upset me a great deal.)
• Frazee - for one of the dumbest acts ever committed by a human being.
• Harrington - Just a big dumbass
• Duquette - He is in a musical about the Sox now. Not sure if anything else is worth mentioning about him.
• Eeyore stunt double: Grady Little - ..ugh...
• Tom Brunansky - Just because I hated getting his baseball card with a passion. (Yea, almost 30 and I still get that goofy grin on my face when opening pack of cards.)

Yep, thats my list. I'm sure I coud think of more players but i'm still sleepy.

I'd have to say the guys that have annoyed me at some point and in no particular order...

Bill Buckner
Dan Duquette
Jimy Williams
Grady Little
Heathcliff Slocumb
Frazee - just for history's sake...

Hmm... where to begin?

Yawkee, for reasons stated above
Eddie Collins and Pinky Higgins (reading Shut Out made me shiver)
Duquette
Many of the overpaid, whiney, underperfoming bums on the 2001 squad (Lansing, Bichette, etc.)
Frazee ... for obvious reasons
Dan Shaungessy (not technically a member of the Red Sox... but created that stupid Curse baloney)
Zimmer (soley for benching Bill Lee at the worst possible time)
Wil Cordero (that ESPN interview was something, wasn't it?)
Sullivan and LeRoux (Sullivan meant well... he just didn't get it; LeRoux... just awful)

There are sure to be more...

Oooohh -- Shaugnnessy... how did I forget that one?

And I cannot leave out...
JOHN BURKETT

My hatred for him has been well-chronicled on this forum!!!!!!!!

To a much lesser extent...
Jeff Reardon
Brunansky

I can't bring myself to put guys like Schiraldi, Grady, McNamara and so forth into the "hate" category. Choker might be more appropriate in cases like that.

very short list for me

1. Bob Stanley
1a. Grady Little
1b. The Gerbil

Obviously, you can go all the way back to Frazee days, but I'll just say 10 most hated Sox folk in my lifetime (in no particular order):

Tom Yawkey
John Harrington
Mike Greenwell
Dave Valle
Jeff Russell
Don Zimmer
Haywood Sullivan
John McNamara
Bob Stanley
Rich Gedman

Bruno???????

I'm curious why he would be on your list. My #1 memory of him was the great catch in rf in the clincher in '90..... Hw wasn't good with the Sox, but that is one of the better moments of recent Sox history.

A few of my picks:
Grady
Zim
Mike Torrez
Matt Young
Mike Lansing
Tony Arm up his arse (Sr not Jr;thanks for Pedro)
Rob Murphy

EZ for me...

Wade Boggs

Watching him ride that horse with the NYC cop, trotting around like some big hero.

My time in Beantown 85-93, there were a few standouts:

Mike Greenwell - met a bloke in the crowd at the Fens one night who had just presented 39 with a portrait. He was raving about Greenwell, "great guy, blah, blah, blah." Two weeks later, the Herald ran the story of Greenwell smashing the portrait in the midst of a slump. BUM!

Wade Boggs. Self-centred banjo hitter. JERK!

Bob Stanley - get a bigger cap or a haircut. TOSSER!

Since no one's mentioned him (suprisingly):

Jose Offerman--Essentially stole $22 million from Boston in four-years while disguised as a light hitting DH/poor fielding 2B

Mike Lansing
Craig Grebeck (I think even I could've hit .051 in as many at bats as he had)
Jimy Williams
Kim (he's on his way, unfortunately)
Tony Clark
Derek Lowe (2001 version)

all right, i am new...whoa...a red sox emotocon. nice! life is good.

oh yeah, dudes i hated

boggs--that horse thing killed me, too
wasdin
deer
clemens--i hope his dog dies

I hold that one against Duquette...

I'm new to this site and this is my first post.

Mike Torrez
Jack Clark
Mo Vaughn
Butch Hobson (as a mgr.)
Sammy Stewart
Marc Sullivan
And, if Saughnessy is fair game I'll add Austen Lake and Dave Egan (right or wrong they messed with my boyhood idol, Ted Williams)

Johnny Mac
Grady Little
Harry Frazee (sp?)
Mike Lansing
Wayback Wasdin
Heathcliff Slocumb
Mike Torrez
Jack Clark
Roger Clemens (for becoming a member of the MFY)
Rob Murphy
the batting abilities of DLEW
Wade Boggs (see Clemens)
Butch Hobson (the manager)
CHB

most hated figures in sox history:

. Mike Greenwell
. Spike Owen
. Roger Clemens
. Calvin Sheroldi
. Carl Everette
. Brady Anderson
. Offerman


I am new to this site and this is my 1st post. just trying to get my feet wet!!

I'll even put mine in order of hatred.

1. Bob Stanley - I will never forgive that man.

2. Grady Little - Maybe because it's fresh in my mind but I think this hatred will last into and beyond my afterlife.

3. Jose Offerman - what Doctor's in New England I believe now call colon cancer

4. Scott Cooper - His pressence sent Bagwell packing and wasted Tim Nierhring's prime years. Bogus All-Star who did NOTHING once he left.

There's more but I'm blinded with rage.

In no particular order:

• Jimy Williams
• Grady Little
• Rich Gedman
• Dave Stapleton (nothing personal, just thought he was awful)
• Wil Cordero
• Mo Vaughn (0-2 curveball in the dirt, got him EVERY time)
• Yawkey
• Bob Stanley

Funny, I always felt happy for him during that visual. And I've always been a completely miserable prick.

Craig Grebeck.

I didn't hate him so much as he represented all the crap of the Duquette years (not really) boiled down into one .073 hitting player. Yessssssss....

Maybe I'm blind and just didn't see it, but how could anyone leave off as thier
first pick but George Steinbrenner!!

1. George Steinbrenner
2. New York Yankees (Whole Team, no matter the year)!!
3. Bucky Dent
4. Wade Boggs
5. Billy Buckner
6. Rich Gedman
7. Kim (I hope, he gets traded soon)!
8. Carl Everett
9. Roger Clemens
10.Scott Cooper
11.Reggie Smith (How did I forget him)?

Go Red Sox!!!

I Still Hate the Yankees!!

Hmm, most hated ...

* Most hated player of my time: Jose Awfulman.
Grumbling, sulking, overpaid banjo hitter.
It says something that in his last Sox appearance, he lost track of the outs and got doubled off first.

* Runners-up: Rick Trlicek and Sergio Valdez.
Coulda been nice guys for all I know, but they exemplified the worst of the plodding Butch Hobson years, before things got exciting again.
Boy, did they used to get lit up.

* If I had to pick the most hated (or contemptible) person before my time, I'd probably choose Mike Higgins.
I have never seen him described as anything other than a worthless, racist drunk.
(If history has done him a disservice, someone let me know.)

Recent:
1 Kevin Shea
2 Duquette
3 Canseco
4 Offerman -- though the contract wasn't his fault
5 Guys who quit at the end of 2001 -- I had tickets to three of the last four in Baltimore and the team had made me so ill under Joe Kerrigan that I almost considered not going
6 Grady
Historical:
1 Mark Clear -- nothing particular against him, but he's representative of my baseball card collection. I have like three of him and a slew of other nobodies and I never got an Eckersley or a Remy or anyone
2 Anyone who needed his own cab in the 25 cabs era.
3 The guys who screwed Tommy Harper et al. -- net result, certain players have no-Boston clauses in their contracts
4 Anyone who wanted to knock down Fenway and build a multi-sport dome
5 The guy who thought it was OK to microwave hot dogs in plastic wrappers in the 80s. Those really sucked -- all soggy and gross.
6 Hawk Harrelson -- not for his Boston tenure, but for his cringe-inducing work in the White Sox booth

-Devin

Hey, everyone. I came over here from a White (or "other") Sox site. Great
site you have here. I have registered under the name of a player who played
for both teams. (Carlton Fisk is too easy.)

Anyway, a particular favorite team of mine is the 1967 White Sox, the Hitless Wonders who lost the pennant to the Sox of Red. So I'd like to contribute a
couple of choices to this board.

1. Tony Conigliaro. -Sorry, don't really HATE Conigliaro himself, I just hate what
he did in a June game that year- Hit a two run homer in the 11th at Fenway to
ruin a perfectly good 1-0 White Sox victory.

2. Jose Tartabull. -Made The Throw. Although that moment is not as famous or
well-known around here.

3. Hawk Harrelson. -Yeah, he's the White Sox announcer now, but in 1967 he
turned down a higher offer from the White Sox to sign with Boston. The White
Sox got Rocky Colavito's over-the-hill bat.

4. Carl Yastrzemski. - Obvious choice.

5. Ben Affleck. -Has nothing to do with the 1967 Red Sox, he just annoys the
heck out of me.

Honorable Mention- Harry Frazee, but not for the traditional reasons of Red Sox
fans. I don't like him because I recently read that in 1920, Charles Comiskey
made Frazee an offer of $60,000 and Shoeless Joe Jackson for Babe Ruth; but
the Fraze man, in all his greed, took the Yankees' better offer. The nerve of him.

Great website here, guys. Hope to post here often.

1) Bob Stanley

2) Tim Lollar

Everyone blames Billy Buck for the '86 fiasco, I blame Stanley and Lollar. Billy Buck had no business being on the field, much the same way Pedro had no business pitching in the 8th. Managerial mistake. It's a shame Billy Buck had to move out of the Boston area because of all the heat he had to take even years after he retired. He was a warrior and is greatly unappreciated due to a single error.

Want to blame '86 on anyone? Watch the game. Anyone remember the shot of Stanley and Lollar laughing and joking in the bullpen in the 8th inning? They were acting like it was over. I remember yelling at my TV set for them to get their heads in the game, it aint over yet. Low and behold, who comes in and throws the Wild Pitch which ties the game after loading the bases? The steamer.

I will never forget, nor will I forgive those two for what they did. Not only did they cost Billy Buck a chance to retire in peace, they cost us the Series. There is a special place in Red Sox hell for those two (right next to Steinbrenner's reserved seat.)

Boggs, Zimmer and most of all CLEMENS for CHOOSINg toplay with the MFY's , essentially spitting on the face of the NATION.

Duquette ( is he still alive ?)

I'm gratified that only two posters have named Bill Buckner. I think he took a bad rap. My "devil" in '86 was Schiraldi...he couldn't get that last strike over.

Others:

Clemens and Boggs - for the same reasons.
Bucky Dent and Aaron Boone - ouch
Steinbrenner
Buddy LeRoux
Duquette


:santa

Jack Hamilton(who plunked Tony C)
Julian Javier/Bob Gibson (who ended the 67 dream)

My first thought when i saw this topic was Bucky F...... Dent

As a Red Sox player, I would have to say Offerman.

Gotta be Clemens for 2 reasons:

Chose Toronto over the Sox for the money

Went to the MFYs for the ring

For the record, I think that anyone that puts Bill Buckner on here should really read a little more about what happened in '86. If Buckner fields that ball, he still might not have been able to make the play, and even if he does, the game's still only tied. McNamara is also the guy that left him out there, instead of bringing in a defensive replacement, like he'd been doing throughout the playoffs. Buckner has 60 percent more hits than all Hall of Famers, and when he belted the hell out of the ball in spring training and made the Red Sox in 1990, everyone loved it and the fact that he had a chance to redeem himself.

Calvin Schiraldi is the man who lost Games 6 AND 7.

With that being said, my least favorite Red Sox of all-time:

1. Frazee
2. Roger Clemens (I'll still never understand how he could throw a bat at Piazza's head, and justify it by saying that he thought it was the ball)
3. Schiraldi
4. Larry Anderson
5. Mike Boddicker
6. Rob Deer
7. Jack Clark
8. Bob Stanley
9. John McNamara
10. Matt Young (maybe the only man to ever throw a no-hitter and give up two EARNED runs. Check it out for yourself: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/boxscore/04121992.shtml)

No particular order, folks.......................

John McNamara
Grady Little
Don Zimmer
Jose Awfulman
Calvin Schiraldi
Bob Stanley
Mike Greenwell
Jackie Gutierrez
Jose Canseco
Carlos Quintana
Tony Pena
..........and about 100 other bums

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My top 10 hated

1.Matt Young-this guy couldnt even throw to ball to first base by the end of his career and as someone else mentioned he threw a no no and friggin lost. And yes I was at that game what history.

2.Rawger- went to MFY and "would never play for any other AL East team" ya alright Texas con man.

3. Haywood Sullivan-Ya forgetting to send that contract to Fisk was real smart no matter how bad he pissed off Yawkey before he died its not like he would have been a HOFer or anything...wait... It boggles the mind what 86 would have been like if not for this man.

4. Tom Yawkey- friggin biggot he decided not to sign Jackie Robinson and Willie Mays because they were black even though Jackie hit 6 out of 10 pitches out of the park during the tryouts. He would have been the greatest leadoff man in Sox history.

5. Harry Frazie- shove the play up your a**.

6. Luis Rivera- come on he sucked bottom line

7. Jack Clark- No one has mentioned the "bum" ? who can forget his tremendous hitting in the early 90's another over the hill signing but not as bad as....

8. 90's infatuation with ex NL players- Lemke Nixon and Willie McGee oh my what 3 perfect wastes of space.

9. John Harrington/Duquette- What the hell Duquette strips the farm system, jacks up prices, lets rawger and boggs and mo leave. Stood by Duquette through everything...and rewarded him with extension after extension. If the new ownership does nothing else they did enough by firing Duquette. Great job signing Manny btw I'd love to see Vlad in a sox uniform but that wont happen. Lets not forget a 4 year 24 mil contract to a certain 2B in the late 90's THANKS FOR AWFULMAN U BAS*ARD

10. The asian project- Robinson Checo Jin Ho Cho Sun Woo Kim and countless others duquette signed to bloated contracts especially Checo who last time I checked was pitching in the low minors with DETROIT folks.

At maximum level of anger,

1. Frazee for Mays (1919)
2. Frazee for Ruth (1920)
3. Frazee for Hoyt (1921)
4,5. Frazee for Bush, Jones (1922)
6. Frazee for Pennock (1923)
7. Quinn for Ruffing (1930)
8. Yawkey for racism that ruined most of the 1950s, 1960s

There are several who I disliked for various reasons, but the only Sox player I've ever refused to cheer for is Ricky Henderson.

out of curiosity, why valle?


mine: Duquette, Shaughnessy
hated watching frank castillo pitch, but nothing against the guy; ditto for Burkett and wake when he's off.

(as an aside, somebody here mentioned Quintana - did he die?)

Troy Oleary (for going to the "I divorced my wife" well when you clearly sucked it up.

Jimy williams (for keeping oleary out in left field during this time. also for keeping derek lowe as the closer after he blew 12 of them and keeping hatteberg as the cather when Tek got injured, when you had mirabelli on the bench and hatteberg could'nt throw out Louie Anderson running backwards.

Spike Owen (after watching him wear a yankees hat at fenway during roger's 300 win push)

1.Mike Torrez Not only for giving up the home run to Bucky Dent,but also for his gleeful reaction after Sox blew game 6 of 1986 world series.If any of you read Gammons' Beyond The Sixth Game,you know he was a jerk off the field,always pointing the finger at his teammates and never accepting blame for his own poor pitching.

2.Steve Lyons He was never nearly as good as he thought he was.After leaving the Sox,made a career out of being the 25th man on the roster by out-brownnosing the other candidates for the last spot.From listening to him announce games on FOX,that must be how he got that job too.

3.Joe Price One game in the late eighties he allowed Devon White to steal second,third,and home plate off him all in the same inning,then after the game cursed out Joe Morgan to reporters for removing him from the game.

4.Kevin Kennedy Fork-tongued manager of mid-nineties.In 1996 begged management to bring Garciaparra up from Pawtucket,then told Valentin he didn't want to move him to third base,but management insisted.

5 Rob Murphy Would step in dog crap for good luck before games,then pitch like it during games.

6.Ed Romero Utility infielder who couldn't hit,run,or field.Had the nerve one game to throw a tantrum and throw his bats onto the field because he was pinch hit for.

Bob Stanley - Saw him once at a AA game and wanted to choke him.
Grady - no explaination necessary
Calvin - "deer in the headlights" Shiraldi
Clemens - self centered traitor
Boggs - (same reason)
Offerman - obvious

I've always wondered why Clemens is hated for joining the yankees, but Luis Tiant isn't.
Roger at least went to Totonto first. Tiant joined the yankees directly. Remember him in a yankee uniform hugging Yaz when he got 3000.

as for boggs, good riddance. the first Devil Ray in the hof, if the frnachise still exists come his election.

and anyone who does an endorsement for a hemmoriod medicine is a yankee-for-life.


I actually caught DD in his performance of Damn Yankees this summer in Pittsfield. he can't sing, can't act, can't dance, and can't even fake that he can. If I had a brick I would have chucked it at him during the final bows.

very simple

Haywood Sullivan and Buddy LeRioux cut Luis loose, refusing to even OFFER him a contract

Boston November 2, 1978

Fred Kendall granted Free Agency.

Luis Tiant granted Free Agency.

New York Yankees November 13, 1978

Signed Luis Tiant as a free agent.



That was just the beginning, following the Sox's second-place finish to Bucky Dent and the Yankees in 1978, Fisk wanted to renegotiate his contract, which he had signed in 1976 and was due to expire after the 1980 season. After all, the Sox had done the same for Jim Rice. Fisk was nursing a bad elbow (left over from '78), which prompted then-GM Haywood Sullivan to crack, "I think Fisk's contract is hurting him more than his elbow," and to tell Fisk to show him in writing where he could renegotiate.

In December of 1980, Sullivan and co-owner Buddy LeRoux declined to mail the 1981 contracts for Fisk and teammate Fred Lynn on time. An arbitrator ruled Fisk a free agent for the transgression (Lynn had been traded) and Fisk gladly bolted for the Chicago White Sox, severing a 14-year relationship between him and his hometown team in the process. Haywood and Buddy were labeled "Dumwood and Shoddy" by angry fans.

My most despised carmine hose:

1)Rich Gedman, because it was a passed ball and EVERYONE knows it.

2)Carl Everett, for obvious reasons.

3)Darrell Johnson. Two words: "Jim Burton".

4)Ugie Urbina. Lousy 'tude.

5)Luis Aparicio. Wore skates on the basepaths.

6) Frank Duffy. I don't know why, but I despised him.

7)Bob (Beetle) Bailey. Swish.

8)Don Zimmer. Two words: "Bobby Sprowl".

9)Butch Hobson(as manager). Snort.

10)Billy Conigliaro. Was not a ML talent and the only reason he played here was his name.

I hate boggs too but he has to go in as a Redsox HOF rules. He did crap as a member of the drays except getting his 3000 hit. Boggs also was a valuable 13th pitcher for the rays in his final year remember that one inning.

Obvious (becouse of the name I chose): Thurman Munson
Haywood "contract is in the mail" Sullivan
Dion Sanders

Not So Obvious: Roger "carry my luggage" Clemens
Mo "it's not about the money" Vaugn
Wade "hair club for men" Boggs


Sox-loyalty reasons: No No Nanet Frazee
Bucky Bleaping Dent
Aaron Bleaping Boone
Grady Bleaping Little

(1) Grady Little
(2) BK Kim
(3) Bob Stanley
(4) Heathcliff Slocumb
(5) Calvin Schraldi
(6)Boggs

I tried to reserve my list for people for whom my hatred honestly knows no bounds. Everyone on this list I would honestly like to furiously whip with a garden hose.

5. SiaS -- Given

4. Ben Affleck -- Don't you guys just hate the fact that this punk tries to pass himself off as the pop culture face of the Red Sox. Its infuriating. The day Ben Affleck represents Red Sox fans is the day I get engaged to JBlow and a few days later go down (sober) on a stripper. Yeah right. Nice Hair F***Jobber.

3. Carl Everett

2. Bob Stanley -- there was no question what the final outcome would be the minute he stepped out of the pen that dreaded night.

1. Boggs -- Garden hose, garden hose, garden hose.


PS... Until today Clemens would have definitely been on this list. After today's Astros signing.... I don't know.....he's almost meaningless to me. Now everybody in baseball knows him for what he is -- One of the best player to ever step on a baseball field. And one of the only players to ever step on a baseball field with, literally, no fans. Who gives a crap about this guy? Nobody. Yeah, you'll get your display in the hall, but who's gonna visit it? Who cares?