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RedSoxAnni
Game time: 7:05 pm

Scheduled starters: Kenny Rogers (11-4, 2.77) v. Bronson Arroyo (9-7, 4.24)


The game will be on NESN.


Boston Weather: 4 pm observation at BOS: Few Clouds at 6,000 feet, visibility 10 miles, temperature 87F, DP 66F, wind out of the south at 15 mph.


Forecast: The high offshore that's keeping this hot and humid airmass over New England may get nudged a little today by low pressure behind it, but it will remain hot and humid in Boston. There's a slight chance of showers tonight, but most of the activity will remain south and north.

A south wind will blow across from right to left. And an ill wind is likely to blow out toward the mound.

Anni
RedSoxAnni
The Yankees lost to the White Sox, 2-1, in 10 innings again. Mariano got the loss.

The Yankees have scored five runs in the last 28 innings!
Bozzs
QUOTE(RedSoxAnni @ Aug 10 2005, 04:30 PM)
The Yankees lost to the White Sox, 2-1, in 10 innings again.  Mariano got the loss.

The Yankees have scored five runs in the last 28 innings!
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Great start to our game !!

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Yeehaa !
RedSoxAnni
White Sox top Yankees 2-1 in 10 innings


NEW YORK --Juan Uribe slid in under catcher Jorge Posada's tag to score a disputed run in the 10th inning, lifting the Chicago White Sox over the New York Yankees 2-1 Wednesday.

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Uribe struck out in his first three times up, then tripled with one out in the 10th against Mariano Rivera (5-3), who was working his second inning.

The Yankees drew in their infield, and Scott Podsednik hit a grounder to second baseman Robinson Cano.

Cano threw home and Posada tried to block the plate, but Uribe sneaked in under the catcher's shin guard. Posada stuck out his glove, trying to win the call from plate umpire Bruce Froemming, Rivera pointed to the plate and Yankees manager Joe Torre briefly argued.


Yaz888
Like music to my ears: "The Yankees are down to their final out. Robinson Cano coming to the plate".

Gotta love hearing that!

Yankees lose, thaaaa Yankees LOSE.
ManRamEm
QUOTE(Yaz888 @ Aug 10 2005, 04:52 PM)
Yankees lose, thaaaa Yankees LOSE.
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I SO hope we pound Rodgers into a pile of salt. He deserves nothing more than to be forced from the game after 1 2/3 innings. thumbsup.gif
rogerpl
QUOTE(ManRamEm @ Aug 10 2005, 05:13 PM)
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I SO hope we pound Rodgers into a pile of salt. He deserves nothing more than to be forced from the game after 1 2/3 innings.  thumbsup.gif
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No D in Rogers, as a Roger I see that to often. smile.gif
Malzone64
QUOTE(rogerpl @ Aug 10 2005, 04:30 PM)
No D in Rogers, as a Roger I see that to often. smile.gif
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Take the D and round off the left side and add it to the to to make it too (often). Touche'.

Too busy today, not usually a wisea** here. warren.gif

Edit, let's see someone hit one as far off Rogers in the first as Andruh Jones did in the All Star Game. Make that with the bases loaded, in which case, just make it Manny. tongue.gif
Preacher
Win it for all camera men, everywhere!
Fiskian Pole Shot
QUOTE(ManRamEm @ Aug 10 2005, 04:13 PM)
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Gettin' Biblical on his a$$. Lot's wife says hello. wink.gif
PantsB
Hey Sox fans...
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rogerpl
QUOTE(Malzone64 @ Aug 10 2005, 05:43 PM)
Take the D and round off the left side and add it to the to to make it too (often). Touche'.

Too busy today, not usually a wisea** here.  warren.gif

Edit, let's see someone hit one as far off Rogers in the first as Andruh Jones did in the All Star Game. Make that with the bases loaded, in which case, just make it Manny.  tongue.gif
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I knew that, also.
Know take that D add it to end touche and you are ...
RedSoxAnni
CODE
Pos  Player               HR  RBI  AVG. Pos  Player              HR  RBI  AVG.
---  ------               --  ---  ---- ---  ------              --  ---  ----
 LF  Dellucci, David      19   42  .260  CF  Damon, Johnny        8   55  .340
 SS  Young, Michael       16   60  .328  SS  Renteria, Edgar      6   42  .277
 1B  Teixeira, Mark       31   93  .279  DH  Ortiz, David        26   92  .292
 3B  Blalock, Hank        23   73  .281  LF  Ramirez, Manny      31  104  .285
 2B  Soriano, Alfonso     27   80  .287   C  Varitek, Jason      17   52  .305
 DH  Nevin, Phil           1    3  .270  1B  Millar, Kevin        4   40  .274
 RF  Mench, Kevin         19   53  .270  2B  Graffanino, Tony     1    6  .306
 CF  Matthews, Gary       14   41  .274  3B  Mueller, Bill        6   45  .286
  C  Alomar, Sandy         0   14  .276  RF  Kapler, Gabe         1    1  .333
  P  Rogers, Kenny (11-4, 2.77)           P  Arroyo, Bronson (9-7, 4.24)      


08/10 18:01:12 ET

NU five oh
**MOJO** - Cameo Day 4
Ladies and Gentlemen: Mr. Burt Bacharach!

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Sometimes, you need to take mojo down a notch. Sometimes it's best to play smoothly instead of intensely. Lately it seems like the Sox have been too jumpy for their own good, making errors and having mental blocks that screw up what should be routine plays (Clement forgetting to cover home comes to mind). So it's time to sit back and relax and enjoy one of the more natural, fluid cameos: Burt Bacharach from Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery. It was a guest spot so smooth and perfect, he returned for the sequel with Elvis Costello.

So sit back, relax, and let the Red Sox croon their way to another win when their own front man Bronson Arroyo takes the mound.
ManRamEm
QUOTE(rogerpl @ Aug 10 2005, 05:30 PM)
No D in Rogers, as a Roger I see that to often. smile.gif
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JayhawkBill
Of the Red Sox players in tonight's lineup, the one who's posted the lowest batting average and slugging percentage with Boston this year is Kevin Millar. He's hitting sixth--not ninth, not eighth, but sixth. I don't get it.

Joe Brinkman is calling balls and strikes. He tends to allow few hits--only a .259 batting average in his games--but he also allows few walks, allowing only a .317 OBP in games he's called. Texas' power hitters become more important in such a game.

This would be a very good night for Kevin Millar to regain his power stroke--we'll need right-handed power tonight.
MTSUDaff
QUOTE(JayhawkBill @ Aug 10 2005, 05:35 PM)
Joe Brinkman is calling balls and strikes.  He tends to allow few hits--only a .259 batting average in his games--but he also allows few walks, allowing only a .317 OBP in games he's called.  Texas' power hitters become more important in such a game.
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Judging by the job of the umpires in this series thus far, does an analysis really need to be given?
balla45
Wow. The Rangers have played three straight road games and have the Yankees next and have only rested Barajas so far....
NU five oh
Since for mojo's sake she avoids the Bronson Arroyo game threads, the following song parody is brought to you by Pine Tar Helmet:

"What the Sox Need Now"
Music by Burt Bacharach/Hal Davis
Lyrics by Pine Tar Helmet

What the Sox needs now is glove, sweet glove
It's the only thing on this team that there's just too little of
What the Sox needs now is glove, sweet glove
No not just for some but for everyone

Lord we don't need more offense
There are guys like Manny and Papi
Enough to supply
There are scrappers like Graffy and Rent
With enough pop to blast
'Till the end of time

What the Sox needs now is glove, sweet glove
It's the only thing on this team that there's just too little of
What the Sox needs now is glove, sweet glove
No not just for some but for everyone

Lord we don't need another pitcher
There are Clement and Bronson
Enough to throw
There are Schilling, Timlin, and Chadford
To eat up innings at a time
Oh listen Lord if you want to know

What the Sox need now is glove, sweet glove
It's the only thing on this team that there's just too little of
What the Sox need now is glove, sweet glove
No not just for some oh but just for everyone, everyone

What the Sox needs now is glove, sweet glove
What the Sox needs now is glove, sweet glove
What the Sox needs now is glove, sweet glove
What the Sox needs now

JayhawkBill
QUOTE(MTSUDaff @ Aug 10 2005, 05:39 PM)
Judging by the job of the umpires in this series thus far, does an analysis really need to be given?
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Thanks for the support, MTSUDaff.
kiransdad
1) Uribe was safe; tag hit under the right armpit and not on the knee.

2) Bought a single ticket for 9/30-10/2 today smile.gif Tried to resist but can't. This won't last forever. Plane fare from Madison is only $240. Small price to pay for...well....THIS!!!!

GO SOX 05
kiransdad
QUOTE(JayhawkBill @ Aug 10 2005, 06:35 PM)
Of the Red Sox players in tonight's lineup, the one who's posted the  lowest batting average and slugging percentage with Boston this year is Kevin Millar.  He's hitting sixth--not ninth, not eighth, but sixth.  I don't get it.

Joe Brinkman is calling balls and strikes.  He tends to allow few hits--only a .259 batting average in his games--but he also allows few walks, allowing only a .317 OBP in games he's called.  Texas' power hitters become more important in such a game.

This would be a very good night for Kevin Millar to regain his power stroke--we'll need right-handed power tonight.
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I think you answered your first paragraph with the last.
JayhawkBill
QUOTE(kiransdad @ Aug 10 2005, 05:58 PM)
I think you answered your first paragraph with the last.
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I'd rather that my manager fill out a lineup card on reasonable probabilities, not wishful thinking. That said, I sure hope that it works out!
MTSUDaff
QUOTE(JayhawkBill @ Aug 10 2005, 05:43 PM)
Thanks for the support, MTSUDaff.
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Nuthin' but love baby. Nuthin' but love...
SonofHazelMae
God do i hate Jeff Brantley! banghead.gif
JD88
You don't put your players in a batting order based on how well they are batting, you have to take into consideration other variables. Just becuse Kevin Millar is batting 6th doesn't mean it is wrong. The lineup is set up like this.

L
R
L
R
S
R
R
S
R

That way a LHP cannot dominate a particular spot of the order.
MiracleOfO2704
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LET'S DO IT!!!
JayhawkBill
QUOTE(JD88 @ Aug 10 2005, 06:03 PM)
You don't put your players in a batting order based on how well they are batting, you have to take into consideration other variables. Just becuse Kevin Millar is batting 6th doesn't mean it is wrong. The lineup is set up like this.

L
R
L
R
S
R
R
S
R

That way a LHP cannot dominate a particular spot of the order.
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OK...how 'bout Millar ninth? Or second because his OBP is higher than Renteria's?
kiransdad
QUOTE(JayhawkBill @ Aug 10 2005, 07:01 PM)
I'd rather that my manager fill out a lineup card on reasonable probabilities, not wishful thinking.  That said, I sure hope that it works out!
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In other words you'd rather not have your manager give his buddies endless chances and instead do what wins the game on that given night....

I really do appreciate what Saturn Balls has done for us but am I the only one here who sees #61 warming up and literally says out loud "OH NO"? I don't think so but sometimes I feel that way...
Fiskian Pole Shot
They should have played Steely Dan's "peg" for him to come out to.

QUOTE
So won't you smile for the camera
I know I'll love you better
rominer
QUOTE(JayhawkBill @ Aug 10 2005, 03:35 PM)
Of the Red Sox players in tonight's lineup, the one who's posted the  lowest batting average and slugging percentage with Boston this year is Kevin Millar.  He's hitting sixth--not ninth, not eighth, but sixth.  I don't get it.
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This would seem like more a valid complaint for the past two months in general than for tonight, when he's hitting .500 (though with nothing but singles to show for it) with a .539 OBP in his last 3 games, and has come close enough to hitting a few home runs in the past week that if this were horseshoes none of us would be complaining.

Translation: This is about as close to being hot as Kevin Millar has come since mid-June. Why not ride that horse as far as he'll take you? Figuratively, only, of course.

Plus, Bill Mueller seems to thrive hitting at the bottom of the order (and he gives Johnny Damon someone to drive in). No such benefit from Millar at the bottom of the order (in fact, if you look at his splits, hitting in the #6 spot is about the only place in the lineup where you can sort of, kind of almost justify Millar's existence this year - .290/ .790 OPS).
rominer
QUOTE(JD88 @ Aug 10 2005, 04:03 PM)
That way a LHP cannot dominate a particular spot of the order.
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Except for one little problem:

Kevin Millar '05

vs. lefties .237/.336/.268/.604

vs. righties .289/.371/.417/.788

Millar might as well have an "L" instead of an "R" next to his name in the lineup.

Yes, that's right. I'm playing both sides of the fence on this one. thumbsup.gif
balla45
This is starting to piss me off. Ortiz's average is going to fall below .290 because he's hitting the ball at EVERYONE!! He hits a bullet and of course it has to hit Rogers. My god instead of being 1-8 this series he should AT LEAST be 4-8. This is ****ing incredible.
JD88
QUOTE(rominer @ Aug 10 2005, 04:19 PM)
Except for one little problem:

Kevin Millar '05

vs. lefties .237/.336/.268/.604

vs. righties .289/.371/.417/.788

Millar might as well have an "L" instead of an "R" next to his name in the lineup.

Yes, that's right. I'm playing both sides of the fence on this one.  thumbsup.gif
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Thats not the point.

I'm not arguing for Millar to bat in that particular spot, I'm saying that a abtting order is constrcuted based on batting stances and speed, not just raw power or average.

And a OBP almost .100 above a batting average is very good.
JayhawkBill
QUOTE(rominer @ Aug 10 2005, 06:19 PM)
Yes, that's right. I'm playing both sides of the fence on this one.  thumbsup.gif
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And goldarn it, you do it so well...
JayhawkBill
QUOTE(kiransdad @ Aug 10 2005, 06:10 PM)
In other words you'd rather not have your manager give his buddies endless chances and instead do what wins the game on that given night....

I really do appreciate what Saturn Balls has done for us but am I the only one here who sees #61 warming up and literally says out loud "OH NO"?  I don't think so but sometimes I feel that way...
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Arroyo does great when he's had enough sleep, IMHO.
rominer
QUOTE(JD88 @ Aug 10 2005, 04:23 PM)
Thats not the point.

I'm not arguing for Millar to bat in that particular spot, I'm saying that a abtting order is constrcuted based on batting stances and speed, not just raw power or average.
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Fair enough, and I agree that there are reasons other than the quick glance at his BA/ OPS why Millar might not necessarily be a better fit at the bottom of the order than in the middle 1/3 (see: previous post on the other side of the fence).

I was only disputing that Millar as a righty does anything to offset the effects of a lefty (this season, anyway).
SonofHazelMae
MLLAR! enraged.gif
JayhawkBill
Great foul ball by Millar en route to his strikeout in the heart of our order. eyes.gif
balla45
We all know Millar should not be batting where he is, but it looks like we're going to have to live with it for the rest of the year. So let's just stop talking about him. He'll be gone next year (or he won't start)....
balla45
We should've known Arroyo couldn't go three innings without giving up a run.

And of course junke baller Kenny Rogers is shutting us down...
JayhawkBill
Millar could've had a chance if he'd thrown the ball immediately...

QUOTE(balla45)
We all know Millar should not be batting where he is, but it looks like we're going to have to live with it for the rest of the year. So let's just stop talking about him. He'll be gone next year (or he won't start)....


He shouldn't be batting or fielding where he is, but besides that he's a great guy.
rominer
Am I seeing this correctly? The Texas Rangers sacrifice bunting in the 3rd inning? That smacks of desperation. For purely karmic reasons, I now expect Kevin Millar to hit a home run in today's game.
balla45
Yes, yes you are. smile.gif

They most certainly don't need to...

Let's go Arroyo get your shit together!!
balla45
Kenny Rogers = no hitter. Junkballer badass Kenny Rogers is throwing a no hitter. I repepat, Kenny ****in Rogers is throwing a no hitter. Will somebody please take him yard already? smile.gif
SonofHazelMae
Brantley just called Graffy a "dirt player"
rogerpl
QUOTE(balla45 @ Aug 10 2005, 07:45 PM)
Kenny Rogers = no hitter.  Junkballer badass Kenny Rogers is throwing a no hitter.  I repepat, Kenny ****in Rogers is throwing a no hitter.  Will somebody please take him yard already? smile.gif
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He is an asshole but he's not a bad pitcher.
balla45
Ummm....can Michael Young please come to our team? Wow, I seriously think he could give Furcal a run for his money as far as having the strongest arm at SS. Mueller would've been safe on nearly anyone else....
Seabass
Kapler goes yard.
balla45
QUOTE(rogerpl @ Aug 10 2005, 06:48 PM)
He is an asshole but he's not a bad pitcher.
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He's not a bad pitcher, no. But he's junk. Junk, junk, junk. I just wished he would've been more rusty. He shouldn't even be back....
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