Its happened folks. We have had our first Julian Tavarez incident as well as our first Devil Rays brawl:

Fists Fly in Florida


Well, at least Brian Daubach finally has been avenged...

EDIT: wording

Well we knew he was over emotional and slightly crazy, but he didn't even make it out of Spring Training before he had a melt down.

R-E-L-E-A-S-E is a word that comes to mind.

Well he spiked him so Julian decided he didn't approve to he FREAKING punched him IN THE FACE! This guy is way out there. WAY out there! And hte worst part is is have absolutley NO problem with it. He tries to cut yo so you punch him. Cool.

Hey, maybe we should change our name to "The Boston Guys Who Take Spring Training Way Too Seriously"

At least this is spicing up the end of Spring Training... Any word on when the Enrique Wilson cut/Manny Freak-out is coming?

Hmmm..

I know I didn't, so who had March 27th in the pool? Someone must have.

How about "M-E-N-T-A-L I-N-S-T-I-T-U-T-I-O-N" or "D-E-P-O-R-T-A-T-I-O-N"

I like the passion and it will help the team define itself. Nothing like a brawl to bring a team together.
On the other hand hopefully Tavarez isn't just insane. PLAY BALL!

Please tell me there is video of this out there.

Wow talk about a physco". I'm telling you guys he will be are little
basket case this year emotionaly and even worse then Manny".

From the game thread:

The Brawlin' Boston Red Sox.

Just an idea for Fenway: Install some turnbuckles and ring posts. I want to see Hee Seop Choi give Matsui a flying elbow drop.

I'm gonna check out the 6pm Sportscenter, hopefully they'll have some footage.

Thank God Mark Bellhorn's not with the team anymore. Tavarez'd have already given him a Colombian neck-tie.

I love it. Players with passion. Release? Maybe he had a release when he punched him. We want to release guys who play with passion and are ready to throw down? Maybe we can replace them with some candy asses!

Ohhh Man, can MLB order him to get some therapy? Although I like his passion he's out of control.

I don't think Taverez has the right passion we are looking for though".
Don't get me wrong i hate candy asses as much as the next guy but..
Passion to play the game the RIGHT way and play the game without
making it a rugby match would be nice".

Thats Beautiful. Maybe have a steel cage and some metal chairs. I mean if you are gonna do it, ya gotta do it right!

I hope there is a tape of it because if indeed the play came in as "spikes high" then he has every right to do what he did.

Oh, please. Stop with this "He's out of control!" stuff. I'd rather have Julian tossin' haymakers at Devil Rays than Tek throwing down with Manny in the clubhouse (cough cough).

If he gets hurt, he goes on the DL/Suspended, we bring up Hansen or MDC. Whoopity do. I'd rather have a loose cannon than a dead arm in the bullpen (Halama says, "Hello, boys")

Also, any way we can integrate more WWF theatrics into real sports is wonderful. I want to see Johnny Damon being interviewed by Eric Frede and Coco Crisp runs in and starts yelling, "You know what, brutha! You're nothing but a punk! I'm going to humble you in front of all these people. I'll hit the ball so hard, you'll fall down, then I'll run out there and **** your ass. Make you humble before all 36,000 fans, God, Jesus, and Theo Epstien!!!"

( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K-wEUCCvE0...ch=iron%20shiek -- If you didn't get that joke. Nooooot safe for work.)

I like the attitude this team has, hopefully it will translate into a few wins to start the season.

DirtDogs (may he rest in pieces) has pictures.

Got beaten to it, damn.

And I suppose you condone guys charging the mound every time a pitch is high and tight?

I can't wait until the national media starts with the "Red Sox are a Bunch of Brawling Miscreants" byline! Maybe they should have hugged and made a play date to play soft toss, instead.

You have to admit, its pretty entertaining to see baseball fights.

No sir, I don't condone that. I do condone however striking out when somebody tries to take a man's livelihood away from him. If he did come in spikes up, that is dangerous.

No one would condone that, however if it is apparent that someone intentionally threw at your head no one is going to blame you for charging the mound. As a catcher, you could have come at me with a lowered shoulder to my face, your hands in a fist to my nose, or a forearm to the chest--all of that is cool and I wouldn't have thought twice about it. There is one unwritten rule and you do not come sliding home with your spikes up. I would have been pissed if someone tried to spike me and that's with all the protective gear. I cannot blame Tavarez for swinging if he was spiked intentionally.

First, maybe I'm alone on this, but I think candy asses taste much better than regular asses.

Second - I've seen those two pictures. And from what I can tall, Tavarez actually just gesturing, like, "Oh, darn. A run scored." In fact, I can read lips, and I'm pretty sure that the difference in facial expression from picture #1 to picture #2 is definitive evidence that "darn" was the exact word he used.

Meanwhile, as he was gesturing, Gathright's face got in the way.

I don't know that anyone is really to blame here. Can you fault a guy for saying "Oh, darn" after giving up a run? On the other hand, can you fault a guy for not seeing the gesture coming?

Frankly, I wish Tavarez had a little bit more passion. This is the Major Leagues. You don't need to say "darn." You can say "damn." You can even say "sh*t"or "f**k" -- and without the ***! Big leagues, baby. Big leagues. Come on, Julian, get in the game.

That's what I say.

Rominer, thank you for the new sig line.

Between Beckett and Tavarez in the past 24 hours, we're definitely looking at some intense situations during this season. I wonder how many games Tavarez is gonna get for this incident.

One problem I see with a loose cannon like Tavarez, if that's what he is, is his teammates are "supposed" to back him up when he goes off. So, someday both benches empty, brawl ensues, and someone you didn't want to get injured, does.

Cambridge, you of all people should know that is not a fair analogy.

Here is a picture of the pile on. Who is the guy on the left coming out of the dugout? The other guy looks like Al Nipper.

Thats what Gabe Kapler, Seanez, and Jungle Jim Luscotov are for.

This just might be a very interesting year.

Jungle Jim, I love it. "You f*ck with Cousy or Russell, and you are gonna pay!

/got nuthin to add

Not even how great Clemens will fit in with these guys?

Dammit. Genius. Why didn't I think of that?

You're going to get your @ss charged for quoting pictures.

Img snipped...I never saw it in the first place.

That's what Tavarez's victim says.

This is great. Now this season when Manny or Papi gets drilled in the head by Kazmir over a God damned spring training game brawl between two nobodies (Gathright and Tavarez) we can take solcae in the fact that our pitchers don't take shit from last place teams. You people who think this shows fire or anything positive need your head's examined.

I hereby nominate Caspir for the Nobel Peace Prize. You've come a long way, kid!

Heh heh, I'm trying. I'll admit my first response to "Taverez clocked Gathright" was, "Damn, I gotta see this." But when you think about it, the Drays have nothing to lose, and Kazmir is not afraid to go high and tight. We've seen how Manny and Papi react to a pitch that comes within ten feet of their heads, so it could cost us suspensions later in the season when it is no damage to TB to lose a guy for a week, but could be the difference between playoffs and staying home for us.

Well Caspir, if the Sox had a comfortable lead in mid to late September, is there anything you'd rather see than the MLB turned WWE spectacle of Gabe "Mr. Universe" Kapler, Rudy "Muay Thai" Seanez, and Julian "The Psycho" Tavarez charging the field? I think it could be the one and only time in known baseball history when a cage match was used to determine the victor of the game.

Yeah, fighting never inspires a team.



Nice call, Caspir.

Tavarez is six shades of crazy. I had hoped that he would keep his composure in Boston because he has a knack for not allowing inherited runners to score (*cough* Timlin *cough*), but geez... The guy needs to be wheeled out to the mound on a dolly w/ one of those Hannibal Lecter masks on. Hopefully he'll get the maximum punishment.

What a guy! What passion! He flipped his lid and sucker punched a guy because he was getting lit up.


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Kapler isn't on the team. And fighting leads to suspensions, injuries, etc. I'd rather see good baseball.




You really are the biggest idiot on these forums. Yea, fights with the Devil Rays sure will jack up our team. Hey, it worked that one time with the Yankees Real men sucker punch 120 pound string beans while they're on their knees. You really are a dolt. I said the risk of injury and suspension is more important than fighting the last place Devil Rays. But you're just a stupid jack ass, so talking to you is pointless.


*Edit*

This loser didn't even get spiked.







No one can defend that. He is stomping on his arm for no reason, then when he tries to push it off of him he punches a guy who is on his knees. Real tough guy.

Here's his post game comments by the way.



What a loser. The OCJ of the bullpen if you will.

Well if he didn't get spiked I agree that he's out of line, but fightin's part of the game, Gandhi. Take that peace pipe and smoke it somewhere else.

He didn't get spiked. That was the point.



He's just a jerk.

I don't think this is a huge deal - Tavarez is crazy whats new? If Kazmir goes after Papi or Manny then thats his decision to make but he better be prepared to deal with an ass beating from either one of those guys. Kazmir is tiny and would get broken like a twig.