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Locklandworth
Sorry if this is the wrong place or if it’s not appropriate, but I feel something must be done.

I can’t take the rest of the season with Tina Cervasio, I just can’t. In my opinion she doesn’t have the necessary chemistry with the players, or Don, or Remy. I’m sure people don’t agree with me, and that’s fine, but if you do agree with me please visit the link below and help us bring back Eric Frede.

Bring back Eric Frede and get rid of Tina, sorry Tina, nothing personal, how about you take Eric’s Bruins job?

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dag2000
QUOTE(Locklandworth @ Apr 7 2006, 01:20 PM) [snapback]495852[/snapback]

I can't take Tina for an entire season, can you?
No. I can't. Maybe she'll get better, but Laura Behnke (NECN) still sucks and it's been a while. The only woman local sports reporter I like is Wendy Nix.
Janeyjane17
Frede annoyed the piss out of me when he started, but he totally grew on me and I find myself missing him. Maybe this chick will get better, but she seems - well, I dunno - just not right for the job. However, Kudos to NESN for trying to get more women in these jobs - just this isn't the right one.
Cudahy
So I gather that Frede left because he got a better job with the Bruins?
Locklandworth
QUOTE(Janeyjane17 @ Apr 7 2006, 01:36 PM) [snapback]495859[/snapback]

Frede annoyed the piss out of me when he started, but he totally grew on me and I find myself missing him. Maybe this chick will get better, but she seems - well, I dunno - just not right for the job. However, Kudos to NESN for trying to get more women in these jobs - just this isn't the right one.


I support the gender diversity too. I don't want anyone to think this has anything to do with her being a woman. I actually think they should give Kelly Barons a shot, Red Sox Nation loves her... Of course, I'm a little bias as you can see.
rominer
QUOTE(Janeyjane17 @ Apr 7 2006, 10:36 AM) [snapback]495859[/snapback]

Frede annoyed the piss out of me when he started, but he totally grew on me and I find myself missing him. Maybe this chick will get better, but she seems - well, I dunno - just not right for the job. However, Kudos to NESN for trying to get more women in these jobs - just this isn't the right one.


When NESN first busted out Eric Frede, I was all, "Where the hell is Tom Caron?"

Which, as it turned out, was crazy talk. Frede was much better, which was obvious after a week or two.

I doubt Tina is going to turn out to be an upgrade over Eric Frede - so, "more women in these jobs" or not, this looks to be a downgrade on NESN's part. But it is only three games in. I'm sure she will improve.

I hope she will improve -- I'm taking a wait-and-see, but my wife HATES her. It's been hard enough spending the offseason convincing Mrs. Rominer that "Coco Crisp" is not just a practical joke being played on Red Sox Nation. I don't need anything else working against me.

The problem - and this is an obstacle for a lot of women in the business, I'm sure - is that Tina Cervasio pretty much looks like the token woman on every sports broadcast around the country. She's attractive enough that you don't have to look away (the female equivalent of Don Orsillo does not exist in sports media), but far enough from "hot" to imply to viewers that they take her more seriously. She doesn't seem sports-dumb, but she doesn't seem sports-smart, either. Her job is to lob softballs, and make sports more accessible to women simply by showing a female presence on screen.

All of which is fine and good, but I think unneccessary in the world of Red Sox baseball. The Sox are not lacking for female fans of any generation, so far as I can tell. I'd rather get the best possible product than worry about finding something for every demographic.

But I'm not calling for Tina Cervasio's head. I'm sure she'll settle in. Hopefully with a little less "perky" and a little more "I've watched baseball even before 2006." My only real problem? Looks like we plucked her out of NYC. She's from New Jersey. I'd rather NESN stay local. I just hope she didn't grow up as a $%!#@*! Yankees fan.

Ifitstaysfair
Forgive my ignorance, but what happened to Frede?
BostonSox37
QUOTE(Cudahy @ Apr 7 2006, 02:10 PM) [snapback]495879[/snapback]

So I gather that Frede left because he got a better job with the Bruins?



The Red Sox (80%) and the Bruins (20%) own NESN and NESN does all the games for both, so it's not like Frede decided to leave the Sox, NESN decided to move him from baseball to hockey. Hopefully, Tina is just holding his spot until the Bruins season is over (5 days) because she is brutal.
The Ghost of Ned Martin
QUOTE(Ifitstaysfair @ Apr 7 2006, 02:17 PM) [snapback]495886[/snapback]

Forgive my ignorance, but what happened to Frede?


He is currently employed as host of the Pre/post game shows for some hockey team. I forget the team name.
RedSoxAnni
I had assumed that she was just filling in until hockey season is over. Please don't tell me she's a permanent replacement for Eric Frede!

Maybe we should print out this thread and send it to NESN.

Dover
All you'll ever need to know about Tina in two sentances:

She's from New Jersey. She was employed by the YES Network.

'Nuf ced, McGreevy!

Get the feedback in, it HAS to work! (Great job, Lock smile.gif )

Locklandworth
QUOTE(Dover @ Apr 7 2006, 03:11 PM) [snapback]495911[/snapback]

All you'll ever need to know about Tina in two sentances:

She's from New Jersey. She was employed by the YES Network.

'Nuf ced, McGreevy!

Get the feedback in, it HAS to work! (Great job, Lock smile.gif )


I appreciate all support, but we need to focus our concerns on the fact that she’s not good at her job.

If we focus on her previous employers, her birthplace, or the fact that she looks like a large mouth bass, our complaints will be viewed as unprofessional and biased.

Join the movement, Bring Back Fredo!!!!!

mwpeters8182
Tina Cervasio annoys me for one reason: She continuously blinks when she's talking on air, and it drives me crazy.
john dopson
she actually has a website where she seems to think the Sox job is a permanent one.

another brutal decision by NESN.
Janeyjane17
Aww jeez . . .

One of the good things about Frede is he had a good rapport with Don and Jerry, as well as the cluhouse guys. Remmy and Don would poke fun and Frede took it all in good fun, making the broadcasts fun. not sure if that will happen with this chick.

About my diversity comments, I like that some networks actually try and include women, just they hire hot pieces of ass (for you fellas), who know jack sh-t about the sport. Perhaps they underestimate the desire most fans have for someone knowledgeable over someone who is nice to look at. Or maybe it's just me overestimating?
yazgoesbacklooksupitsgone
QUOTE(Locklandworth @ Apr 7 2006, 02:12 PM) [snapback]495882[/snapback]

I actually think they should give Kelly Barons a shot, Red Sox Nation loves her


This was my thought. Especially since Kelly is wasted on that Bruins fan show alongside that skanky girl with big nose who annoys the frig out of me. Perhaps the Bruins and Red Sox could work out a trade Kelly for Tina and a BU intern to be named later.

My only gripe about Tina has nothing to do with how well she does her job or not, she just reminds me of Cutty on 'House' and I find it distracting.
Superficial ol' me, I just can't get past it.
For the most part, I'm of the opinion that I don't need for Don and Jerry to cut away to the crowd reporter just so he/she can recite what was in the morning paper. Just show the GD game already.
At least Rochie told jokes.

QUOTE
she actually has a website where she seems to think the Sox job is a permanent one.


Wow. That's some resume. She hosted a fishing show? How long before Charlie Moore turns up in the stands.
She's worked for like 10 places since she got out of J-school. I don't think she thinks the red sox job is permenant.
The Love Below
After Kelly Barons started doing that god awful Bruins show with that Rever Beach lookin' broad, I don't want to see her on TV at all. She's dead to me.
Love of Sox
QUOTE(Janeyjane17 @ Apr 7 2006, 12:45 PM) [snapback]495924[/snapback]

Aww jeez . . .

One of the good things about Frede is he had a good rapport with Don and Jerry, as well as the cluhouse guys. Remmy and Don would poke fun and Frede took it all in good fun, making the broadcasts fun. not sure if that will happen with this chick.

About my diversity comments, I like that some networks actually try and include women, just they hire hot pieces of ass (for you fellas), who know jack sh-t about the sport. Perhaps they underestimate the desire most fans have for someone knowledgeable over someone who is nice to look at. Or maybe it's just me overestimating?

Jeanie Zelasko doesn't resemble that remark! Why not a hot piece who can recite the VORP of the Red Sox starting nine?


Ed: Wow, for Kelly to be dead to TLB, it sounds as if, aside from the fortunes of the team, that I am fortunate that the NHL CENTER ICE doesn't include the post game show!
jsinger121
I can't stand her either. She has basically no knowledge of the Red Sox what so ever and is like Suzan Waldman was with the YES network when she was there.

www.bringbackericfrede.com
Locklandworth
QUOTE(The Love Below @ Apr 7 2006, 03:50 PM) [snapback]495931[/snapback]

After Kelly Barons started doing that god awful Bruins show with that Rever Beach lookin' broad, I don't want to see her on TV at all. She's dead to me.


Wow, that's hardcore.
roidrage
QUOTE(jsinger121 @ Apr 7 2006, 03:57 PM) [snapback]495935[/snapback]

I can't stand her either. She has basically no knowledge of the Red Sox what so ever and is like Suzan Waldman was with the YES network when she was there.

www.bringbackericfrede.com

NOBODY is as bad as Waldman......NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBODY!
rominer
QUOTE(Janeyjane17 @ Apr 7 2006, 12:45 PM) [snapback]495924[/snapback]

About my diversity comments, I like that some networks actually try and include women, just they hire hot pieces of ass (for you fellas), who know jack sh-t about the sport. Perhaps they underestimate the desire most fans have for someone knowledgeable over someone who is nice to look at. Or maybe it's just me overestimating?


Basically, but I think they hedge their bets -- they always go for the almost hot piece of ass who is almost passably knowledgeable.

The women in sports TV are almost as generic as the dull, clean cut Joe Buck wannabes that Fox Sports Net has employed all around the country for play by play and as studio hosts. Most of those guys are almost balding, but not quite. They have the hair cut short enough that when "not quite" leaps to "definitely balding," it won't be immediately noticeable. They all express excitement by getting louder, but don't actually change the pitch of their voice. They all sound like they are just doing a job, but aren't really a fan. They all pretty much have the same voice. And they're all boring.

The women are all almost-hot, almost smart, but basically neither. Token women, all cast from the same mold.

It's one thing on FSN - I figure they're just trying to suck the local flavor out of everything the same way Clear Channel does with radio. But NESN is supposed to be independent of that crap. They shouldn't model themselves after FSN.
dimsum67
Just a personal reflection on Eric Frede.

Back in 04 my 8 yr old son was plucked from the crowd to announce "play ball" to start a game at Fenway. We were ushered to the field, watched batting practice and waited for his big moment.

Eric Frede walked by and stopped to talk to my son. he asked if he was nervous, (I was probably more so), about his favorite players and then he taught him Orlando Cabrera's newest dugout handshake, the fist smacking, heaven pointing thing that OCab, Manny and Papi did after home runs. It was a pretty involved thing to learn and Eric Frede took time from whatever show prep he was doing, to teach my son this convoluted shake, smack, wave and point routine. Then Frede let my son teach him his own version, the two of them slapping and fist knocking over and over till they got it right. Seemed like a really cool, relaxed guy, and I thought it was kinda neat for him to spend the time.

On another note, I did catch Tina's clubhouse interview with Terry Francona after the Papplebon save. I thought she asked pretty direct questions relative to his decision to sit Foulke. It certainly wasn't a hard hitting inquisition, but I thought it was fine compared to the typically light NESN clubhouse stuff. Time will tell.
MFLetou
QUOTE(rominer @ Apr 7 2006, 04:18 PM) [snapback]495949[/snapback]

Basically, but I think they hedge their bets -- they always go for the almost hot piece of ass who is almost passably knowledgeable.

The women in sports TV are almost as generic as the dull, clean cut Joe Buck wannabes that Fox Sports Net has employed all around the country for play by play and as studio hosts. Most of those guys are almost balding, but not quite. They have the hair cut short enough that when "not quite" leaps to "definitely balding," it won't be immediately noticeable. They all express excitement by getting louder, but don't actually change the pitch of their voice. They all sound like they are just doing a job, but aren't really a fan. They all pretty much have the same voice. And they're all boring.

The women are all almost-hot, almost smart, but basically neither. Token women, all cast from the same mold.

It's one thing on FSN - I figure they're just trying to suck the local flavor out of everything the same way Clear Channel does with radio. But NESN is supposed to be independent of that crap. They shouldn't model themselves after FSN.



How does Josh Lewin in Texas work with that Fox mold?
I agree with you though.

Funny thing is that I feared Orsillo would be the bland version of McDonough--he sort of it is.
Janeyjane17
QUOTE(MFLetou @ Apr 7 2006, 04:37 PM) [snapback]495954[/snapback]

How does Josh Lewin in Texas work with that Fox mold?
I agree with you though.

Funny thing is that I feared Orsillo would be the bland version of McDonough--he sort of it is.


He is the bland SMcD, but he has loosened up a little in the last year plus now that he and Remy have a decent relationship. That first year though, remy didn't seem to get along with Orsillo at all.
HardcoreJimmyK
For such a seasoned reporter, her mic skills are not crisp.
PantsB
QUOTE(rominer @ Apr 7 2006, 02:15 PM) [snapback]495884[/snapback]

All of which is fine and good, but I think unneccessary in the world of Red Sox baseball. The Sox are not lacking for female fans of any generation, so far as I can tell. I'd rather get the best possible product than worry about finding something for every demographic.

Hell, I see more ladies wearing Sox hats than guys nowadays (for whats thats worth).
rominer
QUOTE(PantsB @ Apr 7 2006, 03:06 PM) [snapback]495968[/snapback]

Hell, I see more ladies wearing Sox hats than guys nowadays (for whats thats worth).


This is probably a direct result of Tom Caron being hotter than Brad Pitt.

Good thing we have Tina Cervasio to start bringing male Sox fans back into the fold. Hopefully she can start adding a little 7th inning stretch dance around the foul poles to her routine.
dfciaf
Wow. Glad I'm not alone on this. Right after we won Opening Day, she had Ortiz up for an on the field interview and her question was something along the lines of "Big Papi, how do you keep finding new ways to crush the ball?". barf.gif

I'm a female viewer and I find her completely off putting. She comes across as fake and bland. Her questions are boring and canned and could be asked by any other person on the face of this planet. She brings nothing new or fun to her role as the on-field correspondent.

She comes across as basically every other female NESN has hired since the new owners took over the team: your stereotypical female sports reporter. It's like they fear having a female on these shows that has a personality.

RSN has a wide female fanbase and we are quite knowledgable. And I think the male segment of RSN is aware of this. As such, I highly doubt many of you would be freaked out if, god forbid, they hired someone who actually had some sort of a personality and understood the sport of baseball and the Boston fanbase.
Janeyjane17
QUOTE(dfciaf @ Apr 7 2006, 06:34 PM) [snapback]495977[/snapback]

Wow. Glad I'm not alone on this. Right after we won Opening Day, she had Ortiz up for an on the field interview and her question was something along the lines of "Big Papi, how do you keep finding new ways to crush the ball?". barf.gif

I'm a female viewer and I find her completely off putting. She comes across as fake and bland. Her questions are boring and canned and could be asked by any other person on the face of this planet. She brings nothing new or fun to her role as the on-field correspondent.

She comes across as basically every other female NESN has hired since the new owners took over the team: your stereotypical female sports reporter. It's like they fear having a female on these shows that has a personality.

RSN has a wide female fanbase and we are quite knowledgable. And I think the male segment of RSN is aware of this. As such, I highly doubt many of you would be freaked out if, god forbid, they hired someone who actually had some sort of a personality and understood the sport of baseball and the Boston fanbase.



Like ME! wink.gif Hell, I'd do the job for free!
rominer
Just for the record:

QUOTE(rominer @ Apr 7 2006, 03:11 PM) [snapback]495969[/snapback]

Hopefully she can start adding a little 7th inning stretch dance around the foul poles to her routine.


QUOTE(Janeyjane17 @ Apr 7 2006, 04:50 PM) [snapback]496049[/snapback]

Hell, I'd do the job for free!


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DwightEvans24
Jeez, give her a chance people. It's been 4 games. Did your bosses talk about you like this after being on the job less than a week?
Nixon's Girl
She just annoyed me with that little commentary more than she has so far these 4 games. She definitely has to go.
Janeyjane17
So Ms. Hollywood gets a limo to a from the stadium . . . hmm . . .

She'll fit right in?
beatlesfab4fan
From the FWIW department....I believe that Remy was *gasp* joking about the limo to and from the stadium comment....The look on her face was priceless....


I will tend to cut her some slack, because I know and remember what its like to start a new job with new people and a new atmosphere and the nerves...

I can remember saying to myself WTF is Eric Freede????But I gave the guy a break, and he grew on me....

Same with Michael Holley......O.K., not really,I've been a Holley fan for a while...But you get my point..

Give the girl a break, maybe she winds up fitting the role like a glove, and if not dont worry, NESN will have someone new next year anyway...wink.gif




Mike
MFLetou
Bring back Dan Roche!!!!

Seriously, he did a solid job, joke talent aside.
The Ghost of Ned Martin
QUOTE(Janeyjane17 @ Apr 7 2006, 09:55 PM) [snapback]496196[/snapback]

So Ms. Hollywood gets a limo to a from the stadium . . . hmm . . .

She'll fit right in?

CATFIGHT!!!!!
foultip
Tina may grow on us

But before we tie her up at the stake, please remember it could be worse. We could have another season of Debbie Wrobleski.
BlackJack
I can't say that I'm enjoying Tina so far, but we really should give her a chance. She needs to build rapport with Remy and Orsillo, and she also needs to get out into the stands more. Sometime around the 7th Remy noted that they hadn't heard from her in a while. Frede would have broken in a couple of times talking to people in the stands and adding to what was at the time a pretty slow broadcast. I'm hoping that she didn't do that because she's still nervous and trying to cover her responsibilities for scheduled stuff, and not because she was daunted by the rain, or worse yet just doesn't want to put the effort in.
HardcoreJimmyK
Girls don't belong in baseball!!!!!!!!1
john dopson
QUOTE(BlackJack @ Apr 8 2006, 09:52 AM) [snapback]496348[/snapback]

She needs to build rapport with Remy and Orsillo, and she also needs to get out into the stands more. Sometime around the 7th Remy noted that they hadn't heard from her in a while. Frede would have broken in a couple of times talking to people in the stands and adding to what was at the time a pretty slow broadcast.


Believe me, I'm not defending Tina.... she's awful.

But it's not the reporter's decision how often they get on.
The producer in the truck decides how often they'll go to the reporter.
BlackJack
QUOTE(john dopson @ Apr 8 2006, 01:18 PM) [snapback]496376[/snapback]

Believe me, I'm not defending Tina.... she's awful.

But it's not the reporter's decision how often they get on.
The producer in the truck decides how often they'll go to the reporter.

I understand that, but if she's out in the stands looking for people to talk to instead of sitting under her umbrella, maybe the producer will go to her more often. Even when they did go to her, she seemed like she was caught off guard. That ain't good. Having said that, I think that she can get better and I'm willing to give her the chance.
MiteMom
I'll bet she grew up a Yankee Fan and she did work with Don Imus..(eughh)... kinda hard to take. She needs to be less perky....too many teeth! She was a traffic girl.....what else needs to be said?


I did see she did play by play for women's hockey in the Olympics..so perhaps she gets a few more chances. Play by play requires some skills.

I will have to second how cool Eric was in person. My son and I sat right behind his station in Texas last year. He took time to talk to my son as well. He also made the extra effort to help us get Tom Werner's attention so we could get a picture of his ring.

Check out her voice over website:

sultry, friendly, warm, smooth, energetic, perky???
http://tinacervasio.voice123.com/



RedSoxAnni
She's just plain annoying. Her accent sounds like she's from Weehawken. I've found the only way to deal with her is to turn down the sound when she shows up on the TV.


I'm going to give this thread a few days, then send it to NESN by linking it their comment form. Maybe they'll get the message!
BoSoxGirl75
I agree with the majority here. I'm trying to give her a chance, but I just don't like her. I like that they hired a female but I think they chose the wrong one. Maybe things will get better after she does more games.

QUOTE
Bring back Dan Roche!!!!

Seriously, he did a solid job, joke talent aside.


I'd love this move, but I doubt there is any chance for this. Of course NESN should be smart and just bring back Frede. Do people even watch the Bruins anymore?

GreenBud
Geezus. She's goddamn hot. She can just stand there and say nothing for all I care.

smile.gif

Love of Sox
QUOTE(rominer @ Apr 7 2006, 01:18 PM) [snapback]495949[/snapback]

Basically, but I think they hedge their bets -- they always go for the almost hot piece of ass who is almost passably knowledgeable.

The women in sports TV are almost as generic as the dull, clean cut Joe Buck wannabes that Fox Sports Net has employed all around the country for play by play and as studio hosts. Most of those guys are almost balding, but not quite. They have the hair cut short enough that when "not quite" leaps to "definitely balding," it won't be immediately noticeable. They all express excitement by getting louder, but don't actually change the pitch of their voice. They all sound like they are just doing a job, but aren't really a fan. They all pretty much have the same voice. And they're all boring.

The women are all almost-hot, almost smart, but basically neither. Token women, all cast from the same mold.

It's one thing on FSN - I figure they're just trying to suck the local flavor out of everything the same way Clear Channel does with radio. But NESN is supposed to be independent of that crap. They shouldn't model themselves after FSN.

You really nailed it with the analyis of the local network hires. I present John Weisbarth, goofy yet likeable fellow who's work I don't see anymore since I have a dish and not cable but is the stadium reporter and the guy who announces the fan contests at PETCO Park. Fits your profile perfectlt as does Argy Stathopoulos. I have yet to see a Sox broadcast on MLB EI to opine on Tina.
john dopson
QUOTE(GreenBud @ Apr 9 2006, 12:31 AM) [snapback]496685[/snapback]

She can just stand there and say nothing for all I care.

smile.gif


then she'd be the perfect sideline reporter.
HardcoreJimmyK
QUOTE(GreenBud @ Apr 9 2006, 02:31 AM) [snapback]496685[/snapback]

Geezus. She's goddamn hot. She can just stand there and say nothing for all I care.

smile.gif


She's kinda good looking, but like how an older married chick you work with is hot. Yeah, you can fantasize about her all you want in the employee bathroom, but there's just something about her to keep you from going too nutty over her.

So has she cut a decent promo yet this season?


steveoh
If it has been decided that we must involve women in Sox broadcasts, I say dump the token sideline reporter-type and just show us Sox cheerleaders during the pitching changes and between innings. tongue.gif Preferably, in keeping with the team culture, in full-length, yet low cut, red lycra body stockings. banana.gif banana.gif banana.gif

The Sox profess to be innovative. I can think of worse ways to keep me awake during dull 3 hour games. It would be great for our female fans too, as it would allow them to pass the time by encouraging their natural instinct to criticize any attractive woman within 100 yards of them. tongue.gif Get on it Larry!!! thumbsup.gif




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