Full Version: Cheer A-Rod! He deserves it
Check this totally cool site out. And make sure you watch the movie where our hero drops a few F-bombs.
No thanks, two markets booing him is good for me. Only cause he's a Yankee though. I'm the only Red Sox fan though who has some respect for the man and would love him to be a Sox. But when he's a Yankee I want all the mental damage this man is handed by the fans.
It would be a pretty good PR trick for the fans here to cheer him his first at-bat. You know how much play that would get in the media? There'd be more than one apparent reason to cheer, too. #1 - Show up the Yankees fans. #2 - Thank him for "sucking". Anyway, if that were to happen, I'd recommend booing him ferociously the 2nd time up. But how awesome would it be if we cheered and cheered, giving the guy an absurdly long and loud standing O, and then he tipped his hat and in a split second we started to boo him mercilessly? Talk about a mindf***. LOL.
"Look at my life, look at my life - I'm a gangsta!"
Could they find a more ridiculous song for the video montage of Alex Rodriguez, mr. corporate, Madison Avenue sell-out, everybody-love-me, pretty boy doofus?
"Yankee Doodle Dandy" would be more appropriate.
I thought it was funny they did a quick edit just after the close up of him saying "f*ck you" but just before Tek hits him in the face with his glove.
Could they find a more ridiculous song for the video montage of Alex Rodriguez, mr. corporate, Madison Avenue sell-out, everybody-love-me, pretty boy doofus?
"Yankee Doodle Dandy" would be more appropriate.
I thought it was funny they did a quick edit just after the close up of him saying "f*ck you" but just before Tek hits him in the face with his glove.
ARod is the best 3rd inning hitter in baseball. No doubt.
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It would be a pretty good PR trick for the fans here to cheer him his first at-bat. You know how much play that would get in the media? There'd be more than one apparent reason to cheer, too. #1 - Show up the Yankees fans. #2 - Thank him for "sucking". Anyway, if that were to happen, I'd recommend booing him ferociously the 2nd time up. But how awesome would it be if we cheered and cheered, giving the guy an absurdly long and loud standing O, and then he tipped his hat and in a split second we started to boo him mercilessly? Talk about a mindf***. LOL.
Yeah...a la our cheering of Rivera on Opening Day '05. ARod is so used to people booing him by now, though, I'm not sure how he would react.
I would take A-Rod on this team every single day. A-Rod was one of the first players I ever tracked through the minors (it was a short stay) and as a kid, I collected his cards and dreamed of him on the Sox. As soon as pinstripes went on, I've rooted against him, but I'd still take him on this team. I am THRILLED the Yanks play him at 3rd, where he struggles. This guy is amazing, and as much as he presses, he's a great role model for kids and stays out of trouble and gives back to the community. That said - once he loses the stripes, I'll probably be a fan again.
This thread is as good a place as any to comment on the latest ARod article.
Speaking of F-bombs mentioned earlier in another post....This article mentions ARod's character change early this season when he was sprinkling F-bombs throughout his interviews, and how "uncharacteristic" it was of him...my opinion is that there isn't much about ARod personally that's characteristic, he seems to change as the wind blows. With the exception of 2004 and this year, his baseball stats seem to be the only thing about him that hasn't changed.
And there's the latest ESPN poll on ARod.
Question #6) When Rodriguez gave up playing shortstop in order to accommodate Derek Jeter and play for the Yankees did you think more or less of him as a player? was of particular interest.
Unlike the majority of voters, I answered "Less" -- because he didn't offer the same deal to the Red Sox, and he could have (nevermind the money issues). The Red Sox deal was difficult, and he and Boras (and the Rangers) made it 'WAY too easy for the Yanks.
Speaking of F-bombs mentioned earlier in another post....This article mentions ARod's character change early this season when he was sprinkling F-bombs throughout his interviews, and how "uncharacteristic" it was of him...my opinion is that there isn't much about ARod personally that's characteristic, he seems to change as the wind blows. With the exception of 2004 and this year, his baseball stats seem to be the only thing about him that hasn't changed.
And there's the latest ESPN poll on ARod.
Question #6) When Rodriguez gave up playing shortstop in order to accommodate Derek Jeter and play for the Yankees did you think more or less of him as a player? was of particular interest.
Unlike the majority of voters, I answered "Less" -- because he didn't offer the same deal to the Red Sox, and he could have (nevermind the money issues). The Red Sox deal was difficult, and he and Boras (and the Rangers) made it 'WAY too easy for the Yanks.
Yea, Arod is definitely a jerk. He didn't publicly offer to switch positions to come here. All that selfish bum was willing to do is take a massive pay cut, and drastically alter his contract to accomodate the team. What a prima donna.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds...ok_after_a_rod/
So unless you have proof that Arod wasn't open to switching positions here, you're simply making yet another silly statement. Your unadulterated hatred for this guy borders on psychotic. It's quite sad really.
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Rodriguez landed in Gotham in part because he was willing to move to third base after establishing himself as one of the best defensive shortstops in the game. As it turns out, the Sox also explored the possibility of realigning their infield if they had acquired Rodriguez by asking either him or Garciaparra to switch positions.
"The subject was investigated at the time, and it was not an option," Epstein said, declining to elaborate.
"The subject was investigated at the time, and it was not an option," Epstein said, declining to elaborate.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds...ok_after_a_rod/
So unless you have proof that Arod wasn't open to switching positions here, you're simply making yet another silly statement. Your unadulterated hatred for this guy borders on psychotic. It's quite sad really.
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I would take A-Rod on this team every single day. A-Rod was one of the first players I ever tracked through the minors (it was a short stay) and as a kid, I collected his cards and dreamed of him on the Sox. As soon as pinstripes went on, I've rooted against him, but I'd still take him on this team. I am THRILLED the Yanks play him at 3rd, where he struggles. This guy is amazing, and as much as he presses, he's a great role model for kids and stays out of trouble and gives back to the community. That said - once he loses the stripes, I'll probably be a fan again.
That's kind of how I feel.
I have a tough time conjuring up much dislike for the guy individually, though I do root against him in his capacity as a Yankee.
Sure, he's contrived, and he probably does worry too much about how he's perceived (exhibit A: he was Punk'd by Ashton Kucher, but refused to sign the waiver because the clip showed him losing his cool), but he plays hard and -- like you said -- he stays out of trouble.
When the dust settles, I'd be really unsurprised to see him with the career HR record. And if I have to choose between him and Bonds, I hope it's him.
QUOTE(WesternCorrespondent @ Aug 9 2006, 07:04 PM) [snapback]567844[/snapback]
Unlike the majority of voters, I answered "Less" -- because he didn't offer the same deal to the Red Sox, and he could have (nevermind the money issues). The Red Sox deal was difficult, and he and Boras (and the Rangers) made it 'WAY too easy for the Yanks.
My memory must be going in my old age. I thought that the deal was going to be (basically) A-Rod for Manny and then Nomar to the White Sox for Magglio Ordonez, so A-Rod wouldn't have to switch positions.
Was that just a rumor reported to me by Jack Daniels, or was that something floating around at the time?
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My memory must be going in my old age. I thought that the deal was going to be (basically) A-Rod for Manny and then Nomar to the White Sox for Magglio Ordonez, so A-Rod wouldn't have to switch positions. Was that just a rumor reported to me by Jack Daniels, or was that something floating around at the time?
You're probably right, but there's a big difference between "ARod wouldn't have to switch positions" -- the deal the Red Sox and Rangers were working on -- and "ARod volunteers to switch positions AND Hicks pays 1/3 of his salary for the remainder of the contract" -- the deal the Yankees got.
Did the Red Sox ever get any MLB-and-MLBPA-approved"give" from either the ARod "camp" or Tom Hicks? I don't remember any.
Would the Red Sox have shuttled Nomar to ANY other team if ARod offered to play 3B for the Red Sox? We won't ever know because it was ruled out according to this quote -- The subject was investigated at the time, and it was not an option," Epstein said, declining to elaborate. I take that to mean ARod/Boras were being hardnosed about position change with the Red Sox, rather than he "wouldn't HAVE to switch positions".
That video is absurd and it includes at least one clip from the 2004 ALCS, yeah.... That worked out well for the Yankees.
That said, I'm with a lot of people here, I would take him on the Red Sox every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Till then, or at least till he's off the Yankees, blah, screw him.
That said, I'm with a lot of people here, I would take him on the Red Sox every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Till then, or at least till he's off the Yankees, blah, screw him.
I used to dislike him irrationally because after he tried to come to Boston (and admittedly made major concessions in the attempt) he so quickly ended up in New York.
After seeing his irrational fan treatment here in NYC, I lost my hate.
I notice that now that the MFY are in first place, though... the fans aren't using him as the lightning rod* anymore.
L-Rod?
After seeing his irrational fan treatment here in NYC, I lost my hate.
I notice that now that the MFY are in first place, though... the fans aren't using him as the lightning rod* anymore.
L-Rod?
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Sure, he's contrived, and he probably does worry too much about how he's perceived (exhibit A: he was Punk'd by Ashton Kucher, but refused to sign the waiver because the clip showed him losing his cool), but he plays hard and -- like you said -- he stays out of trouble.
Seriously? How have I never heard of this? And more importantly how has this tape never been leaked? This should be on YouTube.
This is a kind of neat article from Baseball Analysts, taking the position that maybe A-Rod isn't crumbling under the pressure of New York. Maybe he's just got something wrong with his swing when compared to previous years.
The Shifting Swings of A-Rod
The Shifting Swings of A-Rod
QUOTE(WesternCorrespondent @ Aug 10 2006, 04:51 PM) [snapback]568626[/snapback]
Did the Red Sox ever get any MLB-and-MLBPA-approved"give" from either the ARod "camp" or Tom Hicks? I don't remember any
I think that the difference between the concessions he made for the Yankees and those he made for the Red Sox was that the Red Sox deal would've resulted in a reduction in the actual value of the contract (by a relatively paltry $5M, IIRC), while the Yankees deal didn't. The MLBPA has traditionally been very firm on the idea of guaranteed money. That is, if you sign a contract for $X, you will absolutely receive $X, unless you violate a very specific clause in your contract, a la Denny Neagle and Aaron Boone.
I think their fear is that if they allowed contract-reducing renegotiations, it would erode the idea of guaranteed money, in much the same way that they fear a salary floor would inevitably lead to a salary cap.
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This is a kind of neat article from Baseball Analysts, taking the position that maybe A-Rod isn't crumbling under the pressure of New York. Maybe he's just got something wrong with his swing when compared to previous years.
Steve Lombardi of WasWatching has an interesting take on that article. Basically, he wonders if the pressure is what's causing the problems with his swing.
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Steve Lombardi of WasWatching has an interesting take on that article. Basically, he wonders if the pressure is what's causing the problems with his swing.
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Something happened in June of this season where A-Rod started to feel the stress, and he started to press, and then he started pulling off the ball. Here it is: Right about the time where A-Rod went south this season was when Gary Sheffield went down for the count.
that's a good point, too.
QUOTE(MrNewEngland @ Aug 10 2006, 08:06 PM) [snapback]568717[/snapback]
Seriously? How have I never heard of this? And more importantly how has this tape never been leaked? This should be on YouTube.
What I've heard is that the bit involved ARod going to a restaurant in NY right after he signed with the Yankees, and being waited on by a guy who was supposedly a Sox fan. Well, this waiter gives him a hard time for signing with NY, rather than the Sox (apparently, he really gave him a hard time), and Rodriguez went off on the guy. I haven't seen it, but that's the word ("on the street," as it were).
So when the thing is over, Rodriguez refuses to sign the release, because of the profanity he used, and how the clip showed him acting in a way that was so contrary to the image he's cultivated.
QUOTE(yazgoesbacklooksupitsgone @ Aug 11 2006, 09:19 AM) [snapback]569126[/snapback]
that's a good point, too.
Yeah, that's something that I hadn't considered. It might be better for Torre to bat Giambi 4th and A-Rod 5th. Of course, if you bat Abreu 3rd, that's two LHB in a row, which is probably the reason A-Rod is batting 4th in the first place.
QUOTE(Mr. Furious @ Aug 11 2006, 05:26 AM) [snapback]569104[/snapback]
[...] Steve Lombardi of WasWatching has an interesting take on that article. Basically, he wonders if the pressure is what's causing the problems with his swing.
I got a kick out of the Lombardi posting just above that, where he says,
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"Giambi and A-Rod's name seems to come up a lot in the above comments, no?
Still, Giambi did have a 2-run homer in this game. And, A-Rod did have the big, inexcusable, throwing error in the 2nd.
But, if I were to say now "The Yankees lost this game, for the most part, because Alex Rodriguez played it like it was the 2005 ALDS" what would be the reaction (by many Yankees fans) to that statement?
"Oh, there goes the A-Rod basher again!"
"What are you obsessed with A-Rod?"
Still, Giambi did have a 2-run homer in this game. And, A-Rod did have the big, inexcusable, throwing error in the 2nd.
But, if I were to say now "The Yankees lost this game, for the most part, because Alex Rodriguez played it like it was the 2005 ALDS" what would be the reaction (by many Yankees fans) to that statement?
"Oh, there goes the A-Rod basher again!"
"What are you obsessed with A-Rod?"
...or worse! "your psychotic ARod hate" is showing?
Mussina reacted to the poor Yankee defense the same way he did the last time, momentarily losing focus, but getting back on track despite some AWFULLY CLOSE K/BB calls by that umpire against him. But hey, he wasn't the only one. Even Posada nearly committed a 3rd error throwing to 2B. The problem was, the ChiSox pitchers tried to give the game to the Yanks, but they kept dropping it. Too bad the Yanks don't play like that more often, especially on national TV...
QUOTE(WesternCorrespondent @ Aug 11 2006, 05:05 PM) [snapback]569344[/snapback]
I got a kick out of the Lombardi posting just above that, where he says,
...or worse! "your psychotic ARod hate" is showing?
Mussina reacted to the poor Yankee defense the same way he did the last time, momentarily losing focus, but getting back on track despite some AWFULLY CLOSE K/BB calls by that umpire against him. But hey, he wasn't the only one. Even Posada nearly committed a 3rd error throwing to 2B. The problem was, the ChiSox pitchers tried to give the game to the Yanks, but they kept dropping it. Too bad the Yanks don't play like that more often, especially on national TV...
The Yankees lost this game, for the most part, because Alex Rodriguez played it like it was the 2005 ALDS. what would be the reaction (by many Yankees fans) to that statement?
My reaction would be that he is a .305 career post season hitter.
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My reaction would be that he is a .305 career post season hitter.
....heh... Well, you're right, SICT, but usually us Mariners/Rangers/Red Sox fans click on Baseball-Reference.com and notice that about halfway down ARod's page, there's some post-season stats listed...
Well, how about that! All but one of the really terrific sparkling post-season stats were achieved while he was a MARINER!!! Then he had one (1) ALDS where he did well for the Yanks.
Then one mediocre ALCS as a Yank against the Red Sox, and most recently in that 2005 ALDS...not good.
Going off on another tangent re: ARod...
I noticed the latest 10 pages or so in the "ARod Performance Discussion Thread" over at nyyfans.com relate to a statement ARod made yesterday to Joel Sherman that for the first 4 months of this 2006 season -- "he was coping with injuries that, perhaps, should have sent him to the DL..." -- and that it has affected both his throwing and his hitting. He says that NOW "This is the best I have felt all year".
I wonder if he injured himself the same way I saw another player unused to a corner fielding position injure himself (referenced in the Javy Lopez thread) -- by diving for a ball laterally, and landing wrong, and popping a rib cartilage or even cracking a rib?
Also (since I don't have posting privileges at nyyfans.com) I have to compliment BJG, who's TRYING to get a sensible word in edgewise between BBtB, 27IsNext and JVisSick. He's made the point twice that the reason nearly all players OR their managers don't mention they're hurt is to prevent other teams from taking advantage.
Well, ARod DID do that until yesterday...
I noticed the latest 10 pages or so in the "ARod Performance Discussion Thread" over at nyyfans.com relate to a statement ARod made yesterday to Joel Sherman that for the first 4 months of this 2006 season -- "he was coping with injuries that, perhaps, should have sent him to the DL..." -- and that it has affected both his throwing and his hitting. He says that NOW "This is the best I have felt all year".
I wonder if he injured himself the same way I saw another player unused to a corner fielding position injure himself (referenced in the Javy Lopez thread) -- by diving for a ball laterally, and landing wrong, and popping a rib cartilage or even cracking a rib?
Also (since I don't have posting privileges at nyyfans.com) I have to compliment BJG, who's TRYING to get a sensible word in edgewise between BBtB, 27IsNext and JVisSick. He's made the point twice that the reason nearly all players OR their managers don't mention they're hurt is to prevent other teams from taking advantage.
Well, ARod DID do that until yesterday...
A-Rod or L-Rod (L is for lightning)
Village Voice article on why everyone loves to hate A-Rod.
Village Voice article on why everyone loves to hate A-Rod.
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When he came to bat in the first game of the Boston massacre series (in which he hit .333 with no home runs but scored or drove in 10 of the Yankees' 49 runs), the Red Sox fans let loose with torrents of abuse, prompting Yankee announcer Michael Kay to quip, "That must make A-Rod feel like it's a home game." "I've never heard anything like it," says Alex Belth of the Bronx Banter website. "There may have been booing for a Yankee player that was more vicious than this, but not in the last 20 years at least."
Veteran sportswriter and Lou Gehrig biographer Ray Robinson has heard something like it. "The torrent of boos that Yankee fans inflicted on Mickey Mantle from about 1958 to 1960 was shocking," recalls Robinson. "What was baffling about it was that Mantle had, by 1959, two Most Valuable Player awards and five World Series rings. I'll say this: Rodriguez has reacted to the booing with a lot more maturity than Mantle did. Mickey led the league in smashed water coolers and batting helmets."
Though the booing of Mantle is now largely forgotten, many old-timers recall it as lasting up to the 1961 season, when Roger Maris became the target of fan abuse, and Mantle, almost overnight, was transformed into a hero. It doesn't look as if there's any Roger Maris in sight to take the heat off Alex Rodriguez.
What accounts for this brutal treatment of the league's reigning MVP? There seems to be no simple explanation. "He inspires an incredible amount of jealousy," says Steven Goldman, columnist for yesnetwork.com, "more than any player I've ever seen. He's movie-star good-looking, fabulously wealthy, and probably the most talented player of our time. He plays hard and clean, and he's polite to everyone. And a lot of people seem to hate him for it."
Veteran sportswriter and Lou Gehrig biographer Ray Robinson has heard something like it. "The torrent of boos that Yankee fans inflicted on Mickey Mantle from about 1958 to 1960 was shocking," recalls Robinson. "What was baffling about it was that Mantle had, by 1959, two Most Valuable Player awards and five World Series rings. I'll say this: Rodriguez has reacted to the booing with a lot more maturity than Mantle did. Mickey led the league in smashed water coolers and batting helmets."
Though the booing of Mantle is now largely forgotten, many old-timers recall it as lasting up to the 1961 season, when Roger Maris became the target of fan abuse, and Mantle, almost overnight, was transformed into a hero. It doesn't look as if there's any Roger Maris in sight to take the heat off Alex Rodriguez.
What accounts for this brutal treatment of the league's reigning MVP? There seems to be no simple explanation. "He inspires an incredible amount of jealousy," says Steven Goldman, columnist for yesnetwork.com, "more than any player I've ever seen. He's movie-star good-looking, fabulously wealthy, and probably the most talented player of our time. He plays hard and clean, and he's polite to everyone. And a lot of people seem to hate him for it."
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More puzzling, at least to English-speaking fans, is why Latin fans, even A-Rod's fellow Dominicans, don't regard him as one of their own. Kevin Baker, novelist and baseball fan, remembers being at a Yankees–Red Sox game two seasons ago in New York and talking to a Dominican family of four who were all wearing Red Sox shirts. Why, Baker asked them, weren't they rooting for the Yankees? "We love Manny!"—Ramirez—they replied. "He grew up near us in Washington Heights." Then why don't you root for the Yankees? Baker asked, since Rodriguez was born there. "They were dumbfounded," Baker says. "They didn't know A-Rod was born in the Heights."
QUOTE(WesternCorrespondent @ Aug 11 2006, 04:37 PM) [snapback]569363[/snapback]
....heh... Well, you're right, SICT, but usually us Mariners/Rangers/Red Sox fans click on Baseball-Reference.com and notice that about halfway down ARod's page, there's some post-season stats listed...
Well, how about that! All but one of the really terrific sparkling post-season stats were achieved while he was a MARINER!!! Then he had one (1) ALDS where he did well for the Yanks.
Then one mediocre ALCS as a Yank against the Red Sox, and most recently in that 2005 ALDS...not good.
Well if you want to really get into the stats his postseason numbers are pretty similar between Seattle and New York outside of batting average. Admittedly this is providing my math is right because I had to do the splits myself, but I did quadruple check them before I posted so I am pretty confident.
Mariners: 15 games, 53 AB's, 18 hits, .340 AVG, .375 OBP, .566 SLG, 3 doubles, 3 HR's, 8 RBI's, 5 runs, 3 BB, 1 SB, 16 K's, and a .941 OPS.
Yankees: 16 games, 65 AB's, 18 hits, .280 AVG, .405 OBP, .507 SLG, 6 doubles, 3 HR's, 8 RBI's, 13 runs, 12 BB, 3 SB, 12 K's, and a .912 OPS.
There's a very interesting, in-depth article in the Seattle Times about the relationship of Ichiro Suzuki and Kenji Johjima, the current CFer and catcher for the Mariners.
Why is this post in this thread, you ask?
Well, at the bottom of the article are these three paragraphs:
ROTFLOL...
Why is this post in this thread, you ask?
Well, at the bottom of the article are these three paragraphs:
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After nearly a half year together then, how has Ichiro's impression of his teammate changed?
"I've discovered he's a decent human being and, in a kind of charming way, he has a certain cuteness to his personality. He's an endearing kohai."
Johjima's warm and fuzzy side is most likely still lost on the opposition. In the first inning of Johjima's first game at Yankee Stadium last month, as Alex Rodriguez was setting himself up in the batter's box, Johjima's mouth could be seen moving from behind his mask.
Then, A-Rod glanced down at his crotch. Johjima had kindly pointed out that his fly was open.
"I've discovered he's a decent human being and, in a kind of charming way, he has a certain cuteness to his personality. He's an endearing kohai."
Johjima's warm and fuzzy side is most likely still lost on the opposition. In the first inning of Johjima's first game at Yankee Stadium last month, as Alex Rodriguez was setting himself up in the batter's box, Johjima's mouth could be seen moving from behind his mask.
Then, A-Rod glanced down at his crotch. Johjima had kindly pointed out that his fly was open.
ROTFLOL...
He is hitting again-praise the heavens!
ARod is probably getting curtain calls again, heh.
ARod is probably getting curtain calls again, heh.
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I posted this here on August 10th.
QUOTE(Sox Sweep Again @ Aug 10 2006, 06:12 PM) [snapback]568650[/snapback]
I used to dislike him irrationally because after he tried to come to Boston (and admittedly made major concessions in the attempt) he so quickly ended up in New York.
After seeing his irrational fan treatment here in NYC, I lost my hate.
I notice that now that the MFY are in first place, though... the fans aren't using him as the lightning rod* anymore.
*L-Rod?
I should get royalties.
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He is hitting again-praise the heavens!
ARod is probably getting curtain calls again, heh.
He got one Friday after his second homer. Those curtain calls are really ridiculous.
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He got one Friday after his second homer. Those curtain calls are really ridiculous.
I read that Torre had to force him out of the dug out for it. As badly as the Yankee fans have treated him this year, I'd be inclined to sit on my duff in the dugout no matter how loud or how long they cheered.
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I read that Torre had to force him out of the dug out for it. As badly as the Yankee fans have treated him this year, I'd be inclined to sit on my duff in the dugout no matter how loud or how long they cheered.
As a Yankee fan I agree. I said the same thing back when he was slumping pretty bad and he was getting booed everyday. Obviously that really isnt an option for him though. His tone with reporters and the press is slowly but surely changing...
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I think their fear is that if they allowed contract-reducing renegotiations, it would erode the idea of guaranteed money, in much the same way that they fear a salary floor would inevitably lead to a salary cap.
Steve Lombardi of WasWatching has an interesting take on that article. Basically, he wonders if the pressure is what's causing the problems with his swing.
BTW Steve Lombardi wrote an awsome book called the Same Game. It comps players you would not likely think would statistically be simular. Very addicting. He also host NetShrine great baseball site.
Man Arod is taking the Heat. I see him moving this offseason to LA Angels if Manny does not bet him there. Watch out Giambi if you say to much......
QUOTE(garedsox @ Sep 21 2006, 11:38 AM) [snapback]590051[/snapback]
Man Arod is taking the Heat. I see him moving this offseason to LA Angels if Manny does not beat him there.
ARod's pride will keep him from moving out of the frying pan (into the fire, if he goes to the LA Angels, back in the same division as Seattle AND Texas). But if he swallows that pride and seeks to protect his enormous but delicate ego, he'll get the Yankees to trade him to the National League. That way the only place he'll be booed is at Shea Stadium....
QUOTE(garedsox @ Sep 21 2006, 02:38 PM) [snapback]590051[/snapback]
Man Arod is taking the Heat. I see him moving this offseason to LA Angels if Manny does not bet him there.
If he moves from New York to LA, then people will hate him because he's rich, talented, handsome and bicoastal.
Pretty sad though as big of a phony as ARod appears to be he's called out by a cheating sleazeball on his own team.
Far as we know has ARod ever stuck a needle in his a$$ to get that competetive edge going? And that sleaze is cheered even though he's not the player ARod is-pretty strange.
Far as we know has ARod ever stuck a needle in his a$$ to get that competetive edge going? And that sleaze is cheered even though he's not the player ARod is-pretty strange.
I agree. I read the Sport's Illustrated Article too and it did not come across as bad as the NY Tabloids made it out. If anything, it only made me hate Juicin Giambi even more. I don't like A-rod, but who the hell is Giambi to tell A-rod what his problems are? This guy was under a cloud in 2004, mysteriously ill for the whole season and couldn't help his team; in 2005 he was a no show for the first half and then "miraculously" comes back with alleged help of Don Mattingly. Who is he to get on A-rod about slumps? AND to top it all off, he calls him out for not performing to his satisfaction during a blow out game!
The column by Bill Madden in the New York Daily News seems to be "piling on" after this past week's revelations in SI, but Madden reiterated just about everything I've said for the past 5 years about Scott Boras and his Svengali influence on ARod.
The only difference is that Bill Madden says it was a 70 page prospectus/manifesto, not the 50 page prospectus I've been referring to all this time. He might have exaggerated, for emphasis...
The only difference is that Bill Madden says it was a 70 page prospectus/manifesto, not the 50 page prospectus I've been referring to all this time. He might have exaggerated, for emphasis...
Well, there wasn't enough thought put into this headline:
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/arti..._embrace_a_rod/
Ill be honest... its taking all my willpower not to go to town with this one...
EDIT: Im sure Arod and Jeter appreciate the team chemistry advice from a cokehead, too
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Strawberry: Jeter must 'embrace' A-Rod
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"They've got to come together," Strawberry said Tuesday. "It's time for them to mend their relationship and get back to, like, OK, let's have some fun. We're here in New York together. We're on the greatest team that we possibly could play on. Let's try to win instead of going separate ways. Because I remember them when they were young and they went to dinner together and they did everything together."
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/arti..._embrace_a_rod/
Ill be honest... its taking all my willpower not to go to town with this one...
EDIT: Im sure Arod and Jeter appreciate the team chemistry advice from a cokehead, too
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Ill be honest... its taking all my willpower not to go to town with this one...
EDIT: Im sure Arod and Jeter appreciate the team chemistry advice from a cokehead, too
Well, the part that started me laughing was when Strawberry said, "I remember...".
That's sorta like the druggie sitting on the floor being told he's getting blocked by the family man in the Ad Council's TVBoss ads...the guy says "you're a nice lady" as the family man leaves the room...
Anytime Strawberry says something like "I remember", take it with a grain of salt.
QUOTE(alskor @ Dec 19 2006, 08:51 PM) [snapback]627650[/snapback]
Well, there wasn't enough thought put into this headline:
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/arti..._embrace_a_rod/
Ill be honest... its taking all my willpower not to go to town with this one...
EDIT: Im sure Arod and Jeter appreciate the team chemistry advice from a cokehead, too
Daryll may remember that, but given his past, his powers of recall are immediately suspect.
Seriously, Daryll knows of where he speaks because when he played, he was not one to let some off-the-field distraction interfere with how he approached the game or reflect badly upon his teammates. Daryll Strawberry = T.E.A.M.
Incidentally
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Strawberry, a former Yankees and Mets star, spoke after a news conference to announce that Yankees special adviser Ray Negron's book "The Boy of Steel" will be made into a movie. The book tells the story of a cancer patient who became a Yankees bat boy for a day.
This sounds like an awful, tear-jerker of movie, so bad that ESPN films has to be involved. What to you think the odd are that the dying kid will be able to get A-Rod and J-Hole to put aside their differences and then they go out and win the World Series. (hey, if penguins can dance in the movies, the Yankees can win the World Series.)
This is the part that is stunning to me:
WTF? What is the Straw talking about?
Arod and Jeter have been playing together for three seasons(04, 05, and 06). Are they "old" now? Were they really "young" then? Seriously, WTF? Were the two ever even close as teammates? Not from what I understand. In fact, as far as I can tell, this is about as close as theyve ever been as teammates. I guess they were somewhat friendly with the Nomar/Jeter/Arod "holy trinity" stuff... and talked a bit, but how friendly could they have been playing 2000 miles away from eachother? I seriously doubt they "did everything together" at any point.
I guess time must have passed really slowly on the inside for the Straw. That, and the drugs have eroded what wasn't a particularly well organized mind to begin with. Ive actually always had a lot of sympathy for the guy, but I can't figure out what he is talking about here... its pretty hilarious, though, especially with the "embrace" line and the way it surely infuriates Yankee fans.
Perpetuate the problem, Sox Fans! Arod can't hit in the clutch! Jeter is a worse shortstop! & so on... 
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Because I remember them when they were young and they went to dinner together and they did everything together."
WTF? What is the Straw talking about?
Arod and Jeter have been playing together for three seasons(04, 05, and 06). Are they "old" now? Were they really "young" then? Seriously, WTF? Were the two ever even close as teammates? Not from what I understand. In fact, as far as I can tell, this is about as close as theyve ever been as teammates. I guess they were somewhat friendly with the Nomar/Jeter/Arod "holy trinity" stuff... and talked a bit, but how friendly could they have been playing 2000 miles away from eachother? I seriously doubt they "did everything together" at any point.
I guess time must have passed really slowly on the inside for the Straw. That, and the drugs have eroded what wasn't a particularly well organized mind to begin with. Ive actually always had a lot of sympathy for the guy, but I can't figure out what he is talking about here... its pretty hilarious, though, especially with the "embrace" line and the way it surely infuriates Yankee fans.
Perpetuate the problem, Sox Fans! Arod can't hit in the clutch! Jeter is a worse shortstop! & so on...
QUOTE(alskor @ Dec 19 2006, 10:35 PM) [snapback]627670[/snapback]
This is the part that is stunning to me:
WTF? What is the Straw talking about?
Arod and Jeter have been playing together for three seasons(04, 05, and 06). Are they "old" now? Were they really "young" then? Seriously, WTF? Were the two ever even close as teammates? Not from what I understand. In fact, as far as I can tell, this is about as close as theyve ever been as teammates. I guess they were somewhat friendly with the Nomar/Jeter/Arod "holy trinity" stuff... and talked a bit, but how friendly could they have been playing 2000 miles away from eachother? I seriously doubt they "did everything together" at any point.
I guess time must have passed really slowly on the inside for the Straw. That, and the drugs have eroded what wasn't a particularly well organized mind to begin with. Ive actually always had a lot of sympathy for the guy, but I can't figure out what he is talking about here... its pretty hilarious, though, especially with the "embrace" line and the way it surely infuriates Yankee fans.
Perpetuate the problem, Sox Fans! Arod can't hit in the clutch! Jeter is a worse shortstop! & so on...
I think the might have been referring to the fact that A-Rod and Jeter were friendly when they were first in the league. Perhaps even "hang out together" friendly.
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I think the might have been referring to the fact that A-Rod and Jeter were friendly when they were first in the league. Perhaps even "hang out together" friendly.
But if they were hanging out together, and Daaarrrrryyyl witnessed it, that means he was there.
And if Strawberry was there, then that means...
...Straw likes younger guys?
I could see Jeter grinding up actresses and beauty contestants and snorting them, but not cocaine. He's not good enough for cocaine.
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But if they were hanging out together, and Daaarrrrryyyl witnessed it, that means he was there.
And if Strawberry was there, then that means...
...then sometime between his 10th and 100th 'last chance' in baseball Straw was employed as a bus boy at some trendy metrosexual restaurant in NY or Seattle?
I think Jeter should get A-Rods wife pregnant then they can call it even and be buddies since they will both have to show up at family get togethers.
I did not realize that the NY off season was going so badly that the papers would have to go to an idiot like strawberry to get a story.
Can you imagine the Globe tracking down Jose Conseco to see what he thinks on the subject of Manny?
I did not realize that the NY off season was going so badly that the papers would have to go to an idiot like strawberry to get a story.
Can you imagine the Globe tracking down Jose Conseco to see what he thinks on the subject of Manny?
You know what bothers me the most about this. It’s not a cokehead like Strawberry giving advice on what’s best for the team. It’s not that this story is keeps coming up in the first place. I wish just once Arod would come out and just put it to bed. Stand up and say look I’m paid a King’s ransom to do my job. I don’t need Derek Jeter or anyone else to hold my freaking hand and be my personal Stuart Smalley. Dismiss the whole thing for the nonsense that it is. Jeters done as much. His silence on the matter has me suspecting it might actually be true, which is laughable.
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