Game time: 7:10 pm
Scheduled starters: Josh Beckett v. Oliver Perez
Javier Lopez and Devern Hansack will also pitch.
The game will be on MLB TV.
Port St. Lucie weather:
3 pm observation at Withard Field: Wind out of the southeast at 21 mph, visibility 10 miles, 3,000 scattered, temperature 78F, DP 63F.
Forecast: Low 70's and a slight chance of showers. The wind should diminish after sunset.
Full Version: BOSTON at NY Mets, Thursday, March 15, 2007
Should be an interesting game, I'm a HUGE David Wright fan... so watching him a long with the Sox should be fun.
Whatever I predict, the opposite seems to happen.
We're gonna get smooshed and the Mets are going to score about 20 runs.
We're gonna get smooshed and the Mets are going to score about 20 runs.
games on SNY for those in the NJ/NY area ...
Nice pitching by Beckett vs Delgado there ... fell behind 3-1 and came back to K him
Nice pitching by Beckett vs Delgado there ... fell behind 3-1 and came back to K him
SNY on MLB.tv too, I can't stand their announcers.
well that was a comedy of errors
and so was that
and so was that
Gameday anyone?
Are you guys sick of the "great" Lugo yet?
I knew he was a disaster waiting to happen. What you have seen in spring training is what I saw all the time in St. Pete. The Sox are going to regret his signing for a while.
I knew he was a disaster waiting to happen. What you have seen in spring training is what I saw all the time in St. Pete. The Sox are going to regret his signing for a while.
QUOTE(vicocala @ Mar 15 2007, 07:49 PM) [snapback]654849[/snapback]
Are you guys sick of the "great" Lugo yet?
I knew he was a disaster waiting to happen. What you have seen in spring training is what I saw all the time in St. Pete. The Sox are going to regret his signing for a while.
I'm not watching the game but I can tell you ST means nothing. I'm assuming he committed an error and that's where your comment stemmed from. If that's the case than so what? I'll swallow 16-17 errors for superior range. He's speedy and a much better hitter than O-Cab and A-Gon.
Thanks gerky...how'd i find it for future ref?
2-0 down Cora is having a stinker?
2-0 down Cora is having a stinker?
Uh, he didn't get to a ball up the middle with his superior range and yes he had another wild throw. It isn't about spring training if you read my whole post. He is what he is. A sucky fielder.
On cue, he does get the Sox second hit. A shot thru the middle.
and a SB ...
And steals second...
Even so I expect 25-30 errors from him.
Even so I expect 25-30 errors from him.
QUOTE(vicocala @ Mar 15 2007, 07:54 PM) [snapback]654854[/snapback]
Uh, he didn't get to a ball up the middle with his superior range and yes he had another wild throw. It isn't about spring training if you read my whole post. He is what he is. A sucky fielder.
I've watched a couple of games this ST and I've got to tell you that Lugo has been making some fantastic plays that barely get beaten out by speedy players. He may occasionally make a fielding error but his problems stem from erratic throws.
Plus him and Youks make an admirable 1-2 combo at the top of the order.
Josh has looked good despite the defense behind him. He had Delgado tied up in knots. Lots of curves and change ups that inning.
QUOTE(Sweet sox @ Mar 15 2007, 07:53 PM) [snapback]654853[/snapback]
Thanks gerky...how'd i find it for future ref?
Just change the date and the opponent in the URL:
For example, in the URL above, "Boston at Mets" is "bosmlb_nynmlb" ...
For home games, it is reversed: "Florida at Boston" is "flomlb_bosmlb" ...
The only annoying thing is that abbreviations can be a little unusual, as in "nyn" instead of "NYM."
OPerez looks pretty damn good for the Mets
Yes, he has. Very good movement and change of pace on his pitches.
Beckett is what he is. A power pitcher. Lots of strikeouts, lots of long balls. It's part of the same package.
That said it's still looking like a pretty good package.
Also beore you assume that errors charged to the infielder are terrible, remember -- Ortiz is playing first. Sometimes when you've got a bad first baseman the fielders try too hard to be perfect.
That said it's still looking like a pretty good package.
Also beore you assume that errors charged to the infielder are terrible, remember -- Ortiz is playing first. Sometimes when you've got a bad first baseman the fielders try too hard to be perfect.
Nah, Lugo sucks. He had a great defensive first baseman with Tampa. He has speed and he is a peppy guy, but he is no defensive player at short. That is why some teams wanted him for second.
QUOTE(vicocala @ Mar 15 2007, 08:34 PM) [snapback]654870[/snapback]
Nah, Lugo sucks. He had a great defensive first baseman with Tampa. He has speed and he is a peppy guy, but he is no defensive player at short. That is why some teams wanted him for second.
Honestly, do you have anything better to do? We get it - you're not high on his defense.
QUOTE(Jermaine Van Buren Fan @ Mar 15 2007, 08:47 PM) [snapback]654875[/snapback]
Honestly, do you have anything better to do? We get it - you're not high on his defense.
Sorry to say, but you spent a majority of last season ripping on Loretta for his defense, and that got a little tiresome, too.
But, I'm sure in your view that was warranted.
QUOTE(gerky @ Mar 15 2007, 08:51 PM) [snapback]654876[/snapback]
Sorry to say, but you spent a majority of last season ripping on Loretta for his defense, and that got a little tiresome, too.
But, I'm sure in your view that was warranted.
I did repeat it a fair amount, but it was always in response to someone calling him "steady" or something of that sort. Vic just loves to rip on Lugo because he's seen him in Tampa, and he just knows he'll be a disaster in Boston.
Sorry to have made an argument of it.
Anyway, since I can't watch what is going on, someone mind filling me in?
Anyway, since I can't watch what is going on, someone mind filling me in?
Oliver has absolutely owned the Sox through 5. no walks, no runs 9 k's, 5 hits
Beckett's not that bad either. 4 IP, 2 ER, 6K, 6h 0BB, 1 HR.
Lopez pitched well for us for an inning, Feliciano did well for them for an inning.
It's 3-0 Mets , the extra (unearned) run was from one of 2 errors by Cora.
In short, my attempt at reverse psychology wholly backfired.
Beckett's not that bad either. 4 IP, 2 ER, 6K, 6h 0BB, 1 HR.
Lopez pitched well for us for an inning, Feliciano did well for them for an inning.
It's 3-0 Mets , the extra (unearned) run was from one of 2 errors by Cora.
In short, my attempt at reverse psychology wholly backfired.
QUOTE(Imgran @ Mar 15 2007, 09:05 PM) [snapback]654880[/snapback]
Oliver has absolutely owned the Sox through 5. no walks, no runs 9 k's, 5 hits
Beckett's not that bad either. 4 IP, 2 ER, 6K, 6h 0BB, 1 HR.
Lopez pitched well for us for an inning, Feliciano did well for them for an inning.
It's 3-0 Mets , the extra (unearned) run was from one of 2 errors by Cora.
In short, my attempt at reverse psychology wholly backfired.
The offense has looked like shit thus far. I hope it's just a mixture of a slow start and mechanics being worked on. If the offense doesn't contribute this year (yes, I know it's early) does the blame get put on the manager, the new hitting coach, or the players themselves?
Let's wait for them to fall apart before we start figuring out where to assign the blame.
On another perhaps more pertinent interest, did anyone see enough of this game to get a verdict on Beckett's use of the curve and change?
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Boston ab r h 2b 3b hr rbi avg.
Lugo, Julio ss 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 .235
Rogers, Ed ss 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .364
Cora, Alex 2b 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 .313
McEwing, Joe 2b-3b 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 .296
Ortiz, David 1b 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Bailey, Jeff 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .235
Ramirez, Manny lf 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .227
Ochoa, Alex lf 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .240
Lowell, Mike 3b 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .226
Scales, Bobby pr-2b 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Moss, Brandon rf 3 1 1 1 0 0 0 .269
Mirabelli, Doug c 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Murphy, David cf 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .333
Johnson, Ron ph-cf 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1.000
Beckett, Josh p 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Lopez, Javier p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Castillo, Alberto ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .222
Hansen, Craig p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
White, Scott ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .500
Totals 32 1 5 1 0 0 1
NY Mets ab r h 2b 3b hr rbi avg.
Reyes, Jose ss 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 .361
Hernandez, Anderson ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .121
Lo Duca, Paul c 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 .174
Castro, Jose c 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1.000
Beltran, Carlos cf 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 .235
Gomez, Carlos cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .222
Delgado, Carlos 1b 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .222
Carp, Mike 1b 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .276
Wright, David 3b 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .313
Smith, Joe p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Schoeneweis, Scott p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Wagner, Billy p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Green, Shawn rf 2 2 2 0 0 1 1 .189
Milledge, Lastings rf 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 .375
Valentin, Jose 2b 3 1 1 0 0 0 1 .316
Gotay, Ruben 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .280
Newhan, David lf 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 .300
Johnson, Ben ph-lf 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .306
Perez, Oliver p 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Chavez, Endy ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .357
Feliciano, Pedro p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Franco, Julio 3b 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .375
Totals 31 4 9 0 0 2 3
Boston 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 -- 1
NY Mets 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 1 x -- 4
E_A.Cora 2. LOB_Boston 9, NY Mets 3. 2B_B.Moss. HR_S.Green (1) off J.Beckett,
J.Castro (1) off C.Hansen. SB_J.Lugo (1), L.Milledge (1). CS_J.Reyes.
GIDP_C.Delgado. DP_Boston 1.
Boston IP H R ER BB SO ERA
Beckett, Josh (L 1-1) 5 6 3 2 0 6 2.63
Lopez, Javier 2 2 0 0 0 2 1.17
Hansen, Craig 1 1 1 1 0 0 13.50
NY Mets IP H R ER BB SO ERA
Perez, Oliver (W 1-2) 5 3 0 0 0 9 3.86
Feliciano, Pedro 1 0 0 0 0 1 0.00
Smith, Joe 1 0 0 0 1 2 0.00
Schoeneweis, Scott 1 1 0 0 2 2 0.00
Wagner, Billy 1 1 1 1 2 0 3.00
WP_B.Wagner.
Lugo, Julio ss 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 .235
Rogers, Ed ss 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .364
Cora, Alex 2b 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 .313
McEwing, Joe 2b-3b 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 .296
Ortiz, David 1b 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Bailey, Jeff 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .235
Ramirez, Manny lf 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .227
Ochoa, Alex lf 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .240
Lowell, Mike 3b 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .226
Scales, Bobby pr-2b 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Moss, Brandon rf 3 1 1 1 0 0 0 .269
Mirabelli, Doug c 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Murphy, David cf 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .333
Johnson, Ron ph-cf 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1.000
Beckett, Josh p 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Lopez, Javier p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Castillo, Alberto ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .222
Hansen, Craig p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
White, Scott ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .500
Totals 32 1 5 1 0 0 1
NY Mets ab r h 2b 3b hr rbi avg.
Reyes, Jose ss 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 .361
Hernandez, Anderson ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .121
Lo Duca, Paul c 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 .174
Castro, Jose c 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1.000
Beltran, Carlos cf 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 .235
Gomez, Carlos cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .222
Delgado, Carlos 1b 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .222
Carp, Mike 1b 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .276
Wright, David 3b 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .313
Smith, Joe p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Schoeneweis, Scott p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Wagner, Billy p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Green, Shawn rf 2 2 2 0 0 1 1 .189
Milledge, Lastings rf 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 .375
Valentin, Jose 2b 3 1 1 0 0 0 1 .316
Gotay, Ruben 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .280
Newhan, David lf 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 .300
Johnson, Ben ph-lf 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .306
Perez, Oliver p 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Chavez, Endy ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .357
Feliciano, Pedro p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Franco, Julio 3b 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .375
Totals 31 4 9 0 0 2 3
Boston 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 -- 1
NY Mets 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 1 x -- 4
E_A.Cora 2. LOB_Boston 9, NY Mets 3. 2B_B.Moss. HR_S.Green (1) off J.Beckett,
J.Castro (1) off C.Hansen. SB_J.Lugo (1), L.Milledge (1). CS_J.Reyes.
GIDP_C.Delgado. DP_Boston 1.
Boston IP H R ER BB SO ERA
Beckett, Josh (L 1-1) 5 6 3 2 0 6 2.63
Lopez, Javier 2 2 0 0 0 2 1.17
Hansen, Craig 1 1 1 1 0 0 13.50
NY Mets IP H R ER BB SO ERA
Perez, Oliver (W 1-2) 5 3 0 0 0 9 3.86
Feliciano, Pedro 1 0 0 0 0 1 0.00
Smith, Joe 1 0 0 0 1 2 0.00
Schoeneweis, Scott 1 1 0 0 2 2 0.00
Wagner, Billy 1 1 1 1 2 0 3.00
WP_B.Wagner.
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