Game time: 7:05 pm EDT
Scheduled starters: Edwin Jackson (4-14, 6.00) v. Jon Lester (4-0, 4.47)
The game will be on NESN.
Boston weather: 4 pm observation at KBOS: wind out of the west at 15 mph, with gusts to 21 mph, visibility 10 miles, few clouds at 6,000 feet, temperature 74F, DP 45F
Forecast: High pressure is building over the area, and will dominate our weather for the next couple of days. The winds will die down this evening, and it will be a pleasant, but cool, evening. The winds should be less than 10 mph, and out of the west, which is blowing out. It could get into the mid-60s in the city; with clear skies and light winds, there'll be radiational cooling, and it could get into the 40s just west of Boston. So bring a sweater for the ride home!
Full Version: Tampa Bay at BOSTON, Wednesday, September 12, 2007
Time to take the rubber match of this series. Let's make it a less interesting win than last night. How 'bout some early run support and a continuation of recent form for Jon Lester. We've alos got Okajima and Papelbon rested and ready in the pen.
Go Sox!
Go Sox!
Red Sox
1. Julio Lugo, SS
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Kevin Youkilis, 3B
5. J.D. Drew, RF
6. Jason Varitek, C
7. Randy Moss, LF
8. Coco Crisp, CF
9. Eric Hinske, 1B
Starting Pitcher - Jon Lester
Devil Rays
1. Akinori Iwamura, 3B
2. Carl Crawford, LF
3. Carlos Pena, 1B
4. B.J. Upton, CF
5. Delmon Young, RF
6. Brendan Harris, 2B
7. Jonny Gomes, DH
8. Dioner Navarro, C
9. Josh Wilson, SS
Starting Pitcher - Edwin Jackson
No Lowell or Ellsbury. Lowell getting the night off after 4 hits last night with an off day tomorrow. Enough with the rest, Tito. Also notice the LF-journalism at its finest.
1. Julio Lugo, SS
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Kevin Youkilis, 3B
5. J.D. Drew, RF
6. Jason Varitek, C
7. Randy Moss, LF
8. Coco Crisp, CF
9. Eric Hinske, 1B
Starting Pitcher - Jon Lester
Devil Rays
1. Akinori Iwamura, 3B
2. Carl Crawford, LF
3. Carlos Pena, 1B
4. B.J. Upton, CF
5. Delmon Young, RF
6. Brendan Harris, 2B
7. Jonny Gomes, DH
8. Dioner Navarro, C
9. Josh Wilson, SS
Starting Pitcher - Edwin Jackson
No Lowell or Ellsbury. Lowell getting the night off after 4 hits last night with an off day tomorrow. Enough with the rest, Tito. Also notice the LF-journalism at its finest.
No need to sit down Lowell with tomorrow off. Tito can be so frustrating sometimes, correction, all the time.
QUOTE(Lowell4MVP @ Sep 12 2007, 05:09 PM) 
No need to sit down Lowell with tomorrow off. Tito can be so frustrating sometimes, correction, all the time.
Lowell's fighting a flu bug. Losing, apparently.
Yeah, apparently Lowell has a case of possible food poisoning. The two days off will definitely help then. To compensate Tito just stacked a ton of lefties against Jackson.
Tito tells us more than we need to know:
``He doesn't know if was something he ate but he's got activity from both ends,'' said the manager. ``He's not feeling too well. He texted me early this morning and kind of said, `Hey, this is what's going on.' You know Mike, he wants to try to get in there but that, to me, makes no sense. I know he's a great player but we have a day off tomorrow. If he plays today and then goes back three days, that doesn't make a lot of sense. Let the trainers work on him, maybe he gets an IV, whatever they deem appropriate. Let him get it out of his system and be okay Friday.''
``He doesn't know if was something he ate but he's got activity from both ends,'' said the manager. ``He's not feeling too well. He texted me early this morning and kind of said, `Hey, this is what's going on.' You know Mike, he wants to try to get in there but that, to me, makes no sense. I know he's a great player but we have a day off tomorrow. If he plays today and then goes back three days, that doesn't make a lot of sense. Let the trainers work on him, maybe he gets an IV, whatever they deem appropriate. Let him get it out of his system and be okay Friday.''
I'm happy to see Moss finally get the nod tonight, but why isn't Ellsbury playing tonight?
Edit: re-worded.
Edit: re-worded.
QUOTE(Red Sox Fan2 @ Sep 12 2007, 05:32 PM)
I'm happy to see Moss finally get the nod tonight, but why isn't Ellsbury playing tonight?
Edit: re-worded.
Edit: re-worded.
Sore wrist.
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Tampa Bay Boston
--------- ------
Pos Player HR RBI AVG. Pos Player HR RBI AVG.
--- ------ -- --- ---- --- ------ -- --- ----
3B Iwamura, Akinori 7 30 .287 SS Lugo, Julio 6 69 .241
LF Crawford, Carl 11 78 .312 2B Pedroia, Dustin 7 47 .325
1B Pena, Carlos 39 109 .279 DH Ortiz, David 29 99 .320
CF Upton, BJ 23 76 .309 3B Youkilis, Kevin 16 80 .289
RF Young, Delmon 12 81 .295 RF Drew, JD 8 50 .259
2B Harris, Brendan 11 56 .282 C Varitek, Jason 13 62 .261
DH Gomes, Jonny 15 41 .243 LF Moss, Brandon 0 0 .214
C Navarro, Dioner 8 40 .229 CF Crisp, Coco 6 58 .271
SS Wilson, Josh 2 23 .280 1B Hinske, Eric 5 20 .222
P Jackson, Edwin (4-14, 6.00) P Lester, Jon (4-0, 4.47)
--------- ------
Pos Player HR RBI AVG. Pos Player HR RBI AVG.
--- ------ -- --- ---- --- ------ -- --- ----
3B Iwamura, Akinori 7 30 .287 SS Lugo, Julio 6 69 .241
LF Crawford, Carl 11 78 .312 2B Pedroia, Dustin 7 47 .325
1B Pena, Carlos 39 109 .279 DH Ortiz, David 29 99 .320
CF Upton, BJ 23 76 .309 3B Youkilis, Kevin 16 80 .289
RF Young, Delmon 12 81 .295 RF Drew, JD 8 50 .259
2B Harris, Brendan 11 56 .282 C Varitek, Jason 13 62 .261
DH Gomes, Jonny 15 41 .243 LF Moss, Brandon 0 0 .214
C Navarro, Dioner 8 40 .229 CF Crisp, Coco 6 58 .271
SS Wilson, Josh 2 23 .280 1B Hinske, Eric 5 20 .222
P Jackson, Edwin (4-14, 6.00) P Lester, Jon (4-0, 4.47)
09/12 17:43:59 ET
QUOTE(bosockboy @ Sep 12 2007, 04:58 PM)
Red Sox
1. Julio Lugo, SS
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Kevin Youkilis, 3B
5. J.D. Drew, RF
6. Jason Varitek, C
7. Randy Moss, LF
8. Coco Crisp, CF
9. Eric Hinske, 1B
Starting Pitcher - Jon Lester
1. Julio Lugo, SS
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Kevin Youkilis, 3B
5. J.D. Drew, RF
6. Jason Varitek, C
7. Randy Moss, LF
8. Coco Crisp, CF
9. Eric Hinske, 1B
Starting Pitcher - Jon Lester
Wow. Moss has changed. He is such a team player, he's willing to play LF for the Sox. I for one, have misjudged him.
Brandon... Randy... what's the difference, eh?
QUOTE(BamaBoSox @ Sep 12 2007, 06:11 PM)
Brandon... Randy... what's the difference, eh?
Sports.
QUOTE(Lowell4MVP @ Sep 12 2007, 05:09 PM)
No need to sit down Lowell with tomorrow off. Tito can be so frustrating sometimes, correction, all the time.
QUOTE(jackson @ Sep 12 2007, 05:19 PM)
Tito tells us more than we need to know:
``He doesn't know if was something he ate but he's got activity from both ends,'' said the manager. ``He's not feeling too well. He texted me early this morning and kind of said, `Hey, this is what's going on.' You know Mike, he wants to try to get in there but that, to me, makes no sense. I know he's a great player but we have a day off tomorrow. If he plays today and then goes back three days, that doesn't make a lot of sense. Let the trainers work on him, maybe he gets an IV, whatever they deem appropriate. Let him get it out of his system and be okay Friday.''
``He doesn't know if was something he ate but he's got activity from both ends,'' said the manager. ``He's not feeling too well. He texted me early this morning and kind of said, `Hey, this is what's going on.' You know Mike, he wants to try to get in there but that, to me, makes no sense. I know he's a great player but we have a day off tomorrow. If he plays today and then goes back three days, that doesn't make a lot of sense. Let the trainers work on him, maybe he gets an IV, whatever they deem appropriate. Let him get it out of his system and be okay Friday.''
And like always people bitch about Tito even though they have no clue whats going on. Can we all just keep in mind for the future that the coaching staff might have a better idea of whats going on with a player's health and status than you sitting at your computer? Thanks.
QUOTE(SuperManny @ Sep 12 2007, 03:34 PM)
And like always people bitch about Tito even though they have no clue whats going on. Can we all just keep in mind for the future that the coaching staff might have a better idea of whats going on with a player's health and status than you sitting at your computer? Thanks.
Why react when you can overreact?
Meanwhile, Mike Lowell seems to have himself a quandary here:
"If I eat my Wheaties, I'll have a 4-hit night. But I'll also have a 4-sh*t morning the next day. Do I eat the Wheaties again?"
Lester walks the first guy. Did NOT want to see that.You walk the first guy, he almost always scores.Can't give up many runs tonight with the AA lineup we have out there.
Well, there goes this game.
Well, there goes this game.
Hopefully this is Lester's wild inning, because this sucks already
Jesus CHRIST, could this start off any worse? Every damned game we start off in the hole.
YAY 4-0!
This is already fantastic! Get the pen up!
This is already fantastic! Get the pen up!
So how long does Tito go with a guy who can't get anybody OUT??
What a setback for Lester. I've never seen him look this bad. Hell of a time for it.
Can't think about putting this guy on the playoff roster.
What a setback for Lester. I've never seen him look this bad. Hell of a time for it.
Can't think about putting this guy on the playoff roster.
Yankees already winning too, awesome
I guess the pitchers took the Tampa Bay scouting reports and flushed them down the toilet...
Not to add injury to insult, but....isn't this the time of year where TB pitchers start throwing at our all-stars?
QUOTE(Yaz888 @ Sep 12 2007, 07:25 PM)
Not to add injury to insult, but....isn't this the time of year where TB pitchers start throwing at our all-stars?
Are any of our "all stars" in this lineup?
QUOTE(Leephus Pitch @ Sep 12 2007, 04:25 PM)
Are any of our "all stars" in this lineup?
Touche.
I find it hard to believe that at one point, everyone thought Lester was a top-line/ace starter. I could be wrong but from what I've seen, he looks like a below-average pitcher whose ceiling may hit #3 material.
QUOTE(Red Sox Fan2 @ Sep 12 2007, 07:36 PM)
I find it hard to believe that at one point, everyone thought Lester was a top-line/ace starter. I could be wrong but from what I've seen, he looks like a below-average pitcher whose ceiling may hit #3 material.
Well, we have to remember that he's coming off cancer.
However, he has always had control problems--even before he developed the disease(of course, who knows exactly when the Big C began affecting him).
I really wish Buchholz weren;'t on a damned innings count.
QUOTE(Red Sox Fan2 @ Sep 12 2007, 07:36 PM)
I find it hard to believe that at one point, everyone thought Lester was a top-line/ace starter. I could be wrong but from what I've seen, he looks like a below-average pitcher whose ceiling may hit #3 material.
He's still to young to get a good read on how good he can be. That said I am not high on him either but maybe with some better control he can become solid number three or more. In the past he has worked out of trouble which says something but he gets into trouble too often. Control, control, control.
QUOTE(Leephus Pitch @ Sep 12 2007, 07:42 PM)
Well, we have to remember that he's coming off cancer.
However, he has always had control problems--even before he developed the disease(of course, who knows exactly when the Big C began affecting him).
I really wish Buchholz weren;'t on a damned innings count.
However, he has always had control problems--even before he developed the disease(of course, who knows exactly when the Big C began affecting him).
I really wish Buchholz weren;'t on a damned innings count.
I agree, however, next year he will have no excusses.
QUOTE(rogerpl @ Sep 12 2007, 07:43 PM)
He's still to young to get a good read on how good he can be. That said I am not high on him either but maybe with some better control he can become solid number three or more. In the past he has worked out of trouble which says something but he gets into trouble too often. Control, control, control.
How much has it progressed? Doesn't seem like it has much.
Way to go, Hinske. Swing at ball 3 with the bases loaded.
Lowrie, Crisp, Lester, and Carter for Berkman. Woohoo!
Jackson= ACE! 
He sucks, get him outta there
I supported the Lugo signing, but he's been a ****ing abortion - yet he's hitting leadoff.
I supported the Drew signing, but he's been a ****ing abortion - yet he's hitting doubles.
What's the over/under on how long this game will take to finish? 4 hours?
Papi is awsome Hinske blows.
11 outs... Thanks, Jon.
Youkilis is ****ing terrible, but I do not think he was wrong on this
No ****ing way.
Wow.
Wow.
For those listening- how close was it?
QUOTE(Albert P. Schlegg @ Sep 12 2007, 08:57 PM)
For those listening- how close was it?
Not very. Vanover has always been a terrible umpire.
Horrible call.
It was not even close, like it was blatantly bad.
These umps have been terrible tonight.
The high pitch has not been a strike, yet it was just there on 3-0?
These umps have been terrible tonight.
The high pitch has not been a strike, yet it was just there on 3-0?
QUOTE(Ralpho316 @ Sep 12 2007, 08:58 PM)
It was not even close, like it was blatantly bad.
These umps have been terrible tonight.
The high pitch has not been a strike, yet it was just there on 3-0?
These umps have been terrible tonight.
The high pitch has not been a strike, yet it was just there on 3-0?
The zone expands on 3-0, and shrinks on 0-2. It's ridiculous.
Fire all the umpires and replace them with computers.
QUOTE(Ralpho316 @ Sep 12 2007, 08:58 PM)
It was not even close, like it was blatantly bad.
These umps have been terrible tonight.
The high pitch has not been a strike, yet it was just there on 3-0?
These umps have been terrible tonight.
The high pitch has not been a strike, yet it was just there on 3-0?
Gameday showed strike 1 and ball 4 right next to each other.
QUOTE(Albert P. Schlegg @ Sep 12 2007, 08:00 PM)
Gameday showed strike 1 and ball 4 right next to each other.
That's what I see on CBSSportsline, too.
I see we've got Mr. Consistency behind the plate tonight...
There have been pitches right to the belt buckle and not called strikes, I mean come on. I am sure it has gone both ways, but how is that not a strike?
Maybe we should start a 6,000 page TEH UMP BLEW IT!!11!!! AGIN!!!!!111!! thread.
NEVER FEAR!! I have begun to drink heavily!@! It worked last night when we got down 8-1.
Hellauva hangover, but if the Sox win, its worth it!!
Hellauva hangover, but if the Sox win, its worth it!!
QUOTE(dtkendrick @ Sep 12 2007, 09:14 PM)
NEVER FEAR!! I have begun to drink heavily!@! It worked last night when we got down 8-1.
Hellauva hangover, but if the Sox win, its worth it!!
Hellauva hangover, but if the Sox win, its worth it!!
No hangover for me.
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