I'm going to be out of town all day, so I figured I'd start this early seeing I forgot to check to see if someone would start it... And an early game thread is better than none at all....
Game time: 7:07 pm EDT
Scheduled starters: Jon Lester (4-0, 4.06) v. A.J. Burnett (8-7, 3.42)
The game will be on NESN.
It looks like decent weather, with high pressure dominating. It'll be in the low 50's by game time, but they'll probably keep the roof open, which is what they did on Monday night.
Full Version: BOSTON at Toronto, Tuesday, September 18, 2007
Early game thread mojo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on Sox, please win a freaking game. Pitching around Thomas might help.
Come on Sox, please win a freaking game. Pitching around Thomas might help.
We gotta get this next one, Jon!
And I agree about pitching around Moses, err, Frank Thomas.
And I agree about pitching around Moses, err, Frank Thomas.
If we lose this game, I'm going to start creating game threads and Anni... you're just going to have to live with it.
I'm starting to think our 2007 team is not that good. That lineup last night was a disgrace. We need Manny back ASAP. We should have won 2 of 3 against NYY, with a shot at 3 of 3. Instead the lead is now 3.5 and I'm getting sweaty.
WIN TONIGHT!!!!
WIN TONIGHT!!!!
QUOTE(Salty Pepper @ Sep 18 2007, 10:55 AM) 
I'm starting to think our 2007 team is not that good. That lineup last night was a disgrace. We need Manny back ASAP. We should have won 2 of 3 against NYY, with a shot at 3 of 3. Instead the lead is now 3.5 and I'm getting sweaty.
WIN TONIGHT!!!!
WIN TONIGHT!!!!
Love your signature!!
I guess because the Sox are usually chasing the Yankess this feels different. But we are 3.5 up and I'm starting to feel as though we are about done. It's wierd. We are 3.5 up with 11 games left and I don't feel good about it.
Help me out here.
The Yankees are the better team guys, no matter what the standings say or whatever, even if we win the division and maybe the World Series. The Yankees are the better team, we just hafta deal with it.
A lot of you guys sound like Chicken Little around here. Run the sky is falling ahhhhhhhh!!!!!!
Sox are still up by 3.5 so its all good.
QUOTE(Ralpho316 @ Sep 18 2007, 11:58 AM)
The Yankees are the better team guys, no matter what the standings say or whatever, even if we win the division and maybe the World Series. The Yankees are the better team, we just hafta deal with it.
IF the Sox win the divison and IF they somehow win the WS, I don't believe it is fesible to say they are a better team. The only argument you could make are the head-to-head matchups, but even than would you say Balitmore is a better team than NY? If the Red Sox win both, going through the Yankees or not, the Red Sox would be the better team.
I can't wait for Jacoby to get benched when Manny comes back
(No shot towards Manny, I'm just pissed were replacing one good bat with another)
Yah, I was def just mocking some of the posters here who talk like that lately.
QUOTE(Ralpho316 @ Sep 18 2007, 12:35 PM)
Yah, I was def just mocking some of the posters here who talk like that lately.
Ah sorry to confuse you with some of the tripe that has been thrown on here lately. "Manny needs to just retire", "When Manny gets back from vacation", "JD Drew and Manny don't play through injuries", "We've been better without Manny", ect...
Damn 5 hours before the game and this thread is already full of negativity. That's gotta be a record...way to go Rooters!!!!
QUOTE(OuttaThePahk @ Sep 18 2007, 10:46 AM)
Damn 5 hours before the game and this thread is already full of negativity. That's gotta be a record...way to go Rooters!!!!
That's because the Red Sox suck.
SUUUUUUUCK!!!
YANKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES ARE GONNA WIN DA SUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPERBOWL!
all I want is no Cora in the lineup, it seems like whatever Tito put him in the line up, our offense sucks big time.. If I had to guess RPG whenever Cora plays ( for past 3 months ) it would have to be no more then 4.0
Alex Cora -- The Killer of Red Sox mojo
It's pretty much official.
It's pretty much official.
I call for 10 runs tongiht!!
Let's make it easy!
Let's make it easy!
That pitching matchup doesn't look good.
All I ask is they actually show a damn pulse tonight and make it appear as if they are really trying.
All I ask is they actually show a damn pulse tonight and make it appear as if they are really trying.
Red Sox
1. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Mike Lowell, 3B
5. J.D. Drew, RF
6. Eric Hinske, 1B
7. Jason Varitek, C
8. Brandon Moss, LF
9. Julio Lugo, SS
SP - Jon Lester
Blue Jays
1. Vernon Wells, CF
2. Reed Johnson, LF
3. Alex Rios, RF
4. Frank Thomas, DH
5. Aaron Hill, 2B
6. Matt Stairs, 1B
7. Gregg Zaun, C
8. Hector Luna, 3B
9. John McDonald, SS
SP - A.J. Burnett
No Crisp or Youkilis.
1. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Mike Lowell, 3B
5. J.D. Drew, RF
6. Eric Hinske, 1B
7. Jason Varitek, C
8. Brandon Moss, LF
9. Julio Lugo, SS
SP - Jon Lester
Blue Jays
1. Vernon Wells, CF
2. Reed Johnson, LF
3. Alex Rios, RF
4. Frank Thomas, DH
5. Aaron Hill, 2B
6. Matt Stairs, 1B
7. Gregg Zaun, C
8. Hector Luna, 3B
9. John McDonald, SS
SP - A.J. Burnett
No Crisp or Youkilis.
I feel smart for assuming Youkilis was going to be out more than one game after the initial "day-to-day" diagnosis.
I don't (and didn't) expect him back til the weekend.
I don't (and didn't) expect him back til the weekend.
Ummmmm I kinda want Manny back and if hes not back by tomorrow, I am officially questioning him this year.
Thank god no Crisp. I think Moss can do an OK job if he is allowed to play. Crisp is one dead-bat that needs to be removed. I wish the Sox called up Kots to give Varitek more "rest". Kots may not be ready by any means but I think he can get 1 hit over a 7 day span.
CODE
Boston Toronto
------ -------
Pos Player HR RBI AVG. Pos Player HR RBI AVG.
--- ------ -- --- ---- --- ------ -- --- ----
CF Ellsbury, Jacoby 3 14 .378 CF Wells, Vernon 16 80 .247
2B Pedroia, Dustin 7 49 .321 LF Johnson, Reed 2 12 .249
DH Ortiz, David 31 106 .322 RF Rios, Alex 23 80 .298
3B Lowell, Mike 19 109 .329 DH Thomas, Frank 25 91 .271
RF Drew, JD 8 52 .260 2B Hill, Aaron 16 73 .278
1B Hinske, Eric 6 21 .220 1B Stairs, Matt 19 59 .301
C Varitek, Jason 13 62 .251 C Zaun, Gregg 9 46 .247
LF Moss, Brandon 0 0 .211 3B Luna, Hector 1 2 .190
SS Lugo, Julio 6 70 .239 SS Olmedo, Ray 0 0 .208
P Lester, Jon (4-0, 4.86) P Burnett, AJ (8-7, 3.42)
------ -------
Pos Player HR RBI AVG. Pos Player HR RBI AVG.
--- ------ -- --- ---- --- ------ -- --- ----
CF Ellsbury, Jacoby 3 14 .378 CF Wells, Vernon 16 80 .247
2B Pedroia, Dustin 7 49 .321 LF Johnson, Reed 2 12 .249
DH Ortiz, David 31 106 .322 RF Rios, Alex 23 80 .298
3B Lowell, Mike 19 109 .329 DH Thomas, Frank 25 91 .271
RF Drew, JD 8 52 .260 2B Hill, Aaron 16 73 .278
1B Hinske, Eric 6 21 .220 1B Stairs, Matt 19 59 .301
C Varitek, Jason 13 62 .251 C Zaun, Gregg 9 46 .247
LF Moss, Brandon 0 0 .211 3B Luna, Hector 1 2 .190
SS Lugo, Julio 6 70 .239 SS Olmedo, Ray 0 0 .208
P Lester, Jon (4-0, 4.86) P Burnett, AJ (8-7, 3.42)
09/18 18:17:38 ET
Nothing like leaving a runner at 3B to start the game off right
QUOTE(Ralpho316 @ Sep 18 2007, 06:10 PM)
Ummmmm I kinda want Manny back and if hes not back by tomorrow, I am officially questioning him this year.
Me too. Two years in a row he's pulled this crap, imho.
The Sox used to be fun to watch. It's become painful.
I want to grab Lester by the ears and tell him to throw strikes!!!!
I want to grab Lester by the ears and tell him to throw strikes!!!!
Were those hard hit balls off Lester?
QUOTE(samba guy @ Sep 18 2007, 07:26 PM)
Were those hard hit balls off Lester?
Does it matter?
QUOTE(samba guy @ Sep 18 2007, 07:26 PM)
Were those hard hit balls off Lester?
Wells led off with a quick walk. Johnson fanned swinging, and then Rios went with an outside pitch and hit a line drive down the right field line for a double that scored Wells. Thomas dropped a soft single in front of Drew, but Rios stopped at third. Hill chopped one to third, and Lowell gunned down Rios at the plate. Stairs walked and Zaun took a called strike three. I would say that Lester was not hit very hard, but again was behind in the counts and the walks hurt him.
The Sox are getting chances. Last night they weren't getting chances. This is an improvement.
QUOTE(TommyK8 @ Sep 18 2007, 08:34 PM)
Wells led off with a quick walk. Johnson fanned swinging, and then Rios went with an outside pitch and hit a line drive down the right field line for a double that scored Wells. Thomas dropped a soft single in front of Drew, but Rios stopped at third. Hill chopped one to third, and Lowell gunned down Rios at the plate. Stairs walked and Zaun took a called strike three. I would say that Lester was not hit very hard, but again was behind in the counts and the walks hurt him.
Thanks for the details, Tommy.
QUOTE
Does it matter?
Depends. I care, so it does for me.
Three hits now for the Sox, all to the opposite field.
QUOTE(ivebeentruped @ Sep 18 2007, 07:36 PM)
The Sox are getting chances. Last night they weren't getting chances. This is an improvement.
We need to get aggressive here and put Lugo in motion. We must create a run here to get this offense started. It's time to end this malaise. Right now.
QUOTE(samba guy @ Sep 18 2007, 07:42 PM)
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Depends. I care, so it does for me.
Depends. I care, so it does for me.
So do I. I was making a rhetorical point.
I don't care if every batter takes Lester to the warning track, as long as they';re caught.
QUOTE(Ralpho316 @ Sep 18 2007, 12:35 PM)
Yah, I was def just mocking some of the posters here who talk like that lately.
You aren't going to feel so smug if we do lose this lead, though.
Believe me...I'm all for you feeling smug.
If we are playing longer than the Yankees are, than we are a better team At this particular moment in time, I just don't see how you can argue that we are, however. That's all I'm saying, mock it all you want.
QUOTE(Leephus Pitch @ Sep 18 2007, 04:49 PM)
So do I. I was making a rhetorical point.
I don't care if every batter takes Lester to the warning track, as long as they';re caught.
I don't care if every batter takes Lester to the warning track, as long as they';re caught.
I think he was trying to see if the first inning would be indicative of future troubles, which would be much more likely if the balls were hit hard.
QUOTE(MFLetou @ Sep 18 2007, 07:49 PM)
You aren't going to feel so smug if we do lose this lead, though.
Believe me...I'm all for you feeling smug.
If we are playing longer than the Yankees are, than we are a better team At this particular moment in time, I just don't see how you can argue that we are, however. That's all I'm saying, mock it all you want.
Believe me...I'm all for you feeling smug.
If we are playing longer than the Yankees are, than we are a better team At this particular moment in time, I just don't see how you can argue that we are, however. That's all I'm saying, mock it all you want.
The results will be self-evident. The best team will be the one that wins.
To say otherwise goes against performance, like saying the 2001 Rams were better than the Patriots. During the season, maybe. But on the particular day they played? No.
QUOTE(MFLetou @ Sep 18 2007, 07:49 PM)
You aren't going to feel so smug if we do lose this lead, though.
Believe me...I'm all for you feeling smug.
If we are playing longer than the Yankees are, than we are a better team At this particular moment in time, I just don't see how you can argue that we are, however. That's all I'm saying, mock it all you want.
Believe me...I'm all for you feeling smug.
If we are playing longer than the Yankees are, than we are a better team At this particular moment in time, I just don't see how you can argue that we are, however. That's all I'm saying, mock it all you want.
It cannot be argued that the Yankees are not playing better baseball right now, because they certainly are. And there is no question that the Division is still in play. If it were not for 2004, I would be absolutely convinced that the Red Sox were going to blow it. I'm still not so sure, but I don't think it's inevitable.
As for who is the better team, I want to withhold judgment until we get Manny back and Youkilis and get our starters and relievers healthy, rested, and aligned.
I believe that if Lester can keep us in this game, we are going to find a way against A.J. Burnett.
QUOTE(Leephus Pitch @ Sep 18 2007, 07:22 PM)
Me too. Two years in a row he's pulled this crap, imho.
Jim Rice is thisclose to completely losing it on Manny. Don't know if anyone else noticed this in the Pregame show.
QUOTE(JustinShaype @ Sep 18 2007, 07:58 PM)
Jim Rice is thisclose to completely losing it on Manny. Don't know if anyone else noticed this in the Pregame show.
Well you have Jeter hobbling around on one leg hitting homers against us to win games and he's gutting it out, and now is when we need Manny back in the lineup. I want Manny back in the lineup by tomorrow night, and in fact, I want to see him pinch hit tonight.
QUOTE(JustinShaype @ Sep 18 2007, 07:58 PM)
Jim Rice is thisclose to completely losing it on Manny. Don't know if anyone else noticed this in the Pregame show.
I did. Caron too.
QUOTE(JustinShaype @ Sep 18 2007, 07:58 PM)
Jim Rice is thisclose to completely losing it on Manny. Don't know if anyone else noticed this in the Pregame show.
Can't blame him. Rice TWICE played several innings with a broken hand.
You had to shoot him to get him off the field.
well the good news is the yanks are up 2-0 .. oh wait
Sweet. Nice to have Tek back doing something at the plate.
make that 6-0
yanks may not lose again before the regular season is over
yanks may not lose again before the regular season is over
who do I root for??? ( Detriot or Indians? ) This is a hard choice!
You root for the Indians.
We really need to win tonight because the Yankees are just not losing tonight.
We really need to win tonight because the Yankees are just not losing tonight.
QUOTE(NJSoxFan @ Sep 18 2007, 08:17 PM)
make that 6-0
yanks may not lose again before the regular season is over
yanks may not lose again before the regular season is over
I hope they peak right now and blow their wad before the postseason.
QUOTE(SFFM38 @ Sep 18 2007, 07:22 PM)
who do I root for??? ( Detriot or Indians? ) This is a hard choice!
My choice is the Browns.
Run, Midget, Run!
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