Game time: 7:10 pm EDT
Scheduled starters: Josh Beckett (19-6, 3.20) v. Scott Kazmir (13-8, 3.54)
The game will be on NESN.
Tampa Bay weather: 2 pm observation at KTPA: Wind out of the south at 12 mph, visibility 10 miles, few clouds at 3,600 feet, scattered clouds at 4,900 feet and 25,000 feet, temperature 88F, DP 73F
Forecast: Warm and humid, with a chance of thundershowers and rainshowers. But we'll be inside!
Full Version: BOSTON at Tampa Bay, Friday, September 21, 2007
The ace takes the hill again. Josh gets Number 20 tonight and we start rolling again.
Let's Go Sox!
Let's Go Sox!
Kazmir is 13-8? I thought that was his line against the Sox this year 
1. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Mike Lowell, 3B
5. Bobby Kielty, RF
6. Jason Varitek, C
7. Coco Crisp, CF
8. Julio Lugo, SS
9. Eric Hinske, 1B
P- Josh Beckett
1. Akinori Iwamura, 3B
2. Greg Norton, DH
3. Carlos Pena, 1B
4. BJ Upton, CF
5. Delmon Young, RF
6. Jonny Gomes, LF
7. Dioner Navarro, C
8. Jorge Velandia, 2B
9. Josh Wilson, SS
P - Scott Kazmir
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Mike Lowell, 3B
5. Bobby Kielty, RF
6. Jason Varitek, C
7. Coco Crisp, CF
8. Julio Lugo, SS
9. Eric Hinske, 1B
P- Josh Beckett
1. Akinori Iwamura, 3B
2. Greg Norton, DH
3. Carlos Pena, 1B
4. BJ Upton, CF
5. Delmon Young, RF
6. Jonny Gomes, LF
7. Dioner Navarro, C
8. Jorge Velandia, 2B
9. Josh Wilson, SS
P - Scott Kazmir
Unbelievable that we have to face Kazmir 6 times in a season, and we didn't even see the Devil Rays until early July. If I remember correctly, this is his 17th career start against the Sox, and the next highest for him is 12 against another team(Baltimore?).
This is an important game, probably as important as a late september game between a 1st place and last place club can be. If we win, beat Kazmir, and Beckett gets 20, the team will be great. If we blow Beckett's chance at the milestone and get owned by this pitcher for a last place club again after the way this past week has unfolded, it could get ugly.
This is an important game, probably as important as a late september game between a 1st place and last place club can be. If we win, beat Kazmir, and Beckett gets 20, the team will be great. If we blow Beckett's chance at the milestone and get owned by this pitcher for a last place club again after the way this past week has unfolded, it could get ugly.
Hey now, looks like they are making a significant effort to get Beckett his 20th...actually got most of the Varsity team out there for this one, save for those that are hurt...and Drew. Of course, Drew againsta tough lefty is pretty much JV anyway, so yeah, stamp of approval.
However, the real question is...will they bring in Gagne for the 8th if the Sox have the lead? I say yes they do, and once again, it will his inning no matter what happens.
With the Varsity lineup, I will definitely be watching. But the booze will be nearby.
However, the real question is...will they bring in Gagne for the 8th if the Sox have the lead? I say yes they do, and once again, it will his inning no matter what happens.
With the Varsity lineup, I will definitely be watching. But the booze will be nearby.
QUOTE(rpry17a @ Sep 21 2007, 04:06 PM) 
1. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Mike Lowell, 3B
5. Bobby Kielty, RF
6. Jason Varitek, C
7. Coco Crisp, CF
8. Julio Lugo, SS
9. Eric Hinske, 1B
P- Josh Beckett
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Mike Lowell, 3B
5. Bobby Kielty, RF
6. Jason Varitek, C
7. Coco Crisp, CF
8. Julio Lugo, SS
9. Eric Hinske, 1B
P- Josh Beckett
I'm not one of those fans who thinks every loss is Francona's fault but I have to question this defensive strategy. Lining up both Coco and Jacoby in CF seems foolhardy.
QUOTE(The Ghost of Ned Martin @ Sep 21 2007, 03:23 PM)
I'm not one of those fans who thinks every loss is Francona's fault but I have to question this defensive strategy. Lining up both Coco and Jacoby in CF seems foolhardy.
Please. With their range, we don't need anybody in LF. We'll throw out just as many runners from LF this way as well.
I thought Ortiz was getting tonight off against Kazmir?
QUOTE(rpry17a @ Sep 21 2007, 03:06 PM)
1. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Mike Lowell, 3B
5. Bobby Kielty, RF
6. Jason Varitek, C
7. Coco Crisp, CF
8. Julio Lugo, SS
9. Eric Hinske, 1B
P- Josh Beckett
1. Akinori Iwamura, 3B
2. Greg Norton, DH
3. Carlos Pena, 1B
4. BJ Upton, CF
5. Delmon Young, RF
6. Jonny Gomes, LF
7. Dioner Navarro, C
8. Jorge Velandia, 2B
9. Josh Wilson, SS
P - Scott Kazmir
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Mike Lowell, 3B
5. Bobby Kielty, RF
6. Jason Varitek, C
7. Coco Crisp, CF
8. Julio Lugo, SS
9. Eric Hinske, 1B
P- Josh Beckett
1. Akinori Iwamura, 3B
2. Greg Norton, DH
3. Carlos Pena, 1B
4. BJ Upton, CF
5. Delmon Young, RF
6. Jonny Gomes, LF
7. Dioner Navarro, C
8. Jorge Velandia, 2B
9. Josh Wilson, SS
P - Scott Kazmir
I am certain nothing is going to drop in CF tonight. There might be some balls that get down in LF, however.
Some good news: No Carl Crawford.
I don't have a link, but I read from a Rays fan on another board that Kazmir is on a 100-pitch limit for the remainder of the year. That should help us a bit.
Let's get started early.
BIG SOX WIN!!!!!!
BIG SOX WIN!!!!!!
QUOTE(acr @ Sep 21 2007, 05:11 PM)
I don't have a link, but I read from a Rays fan on another board that Kazmir is on a 100-pitch limit for the remainder of the year. That should help us a bit.
The Red Sox should go JD Drew style and watch just about every pitch. Work that count and beat the pen.
CODE
Boston Tampa Bay
------ ---------
Pos Player HR RBI AVG. Pos Player HR RBI AVG.
--- ------ -- --- ---- --- ------ -- --- ----
LF Ellsbury, Jacoby 3 14 .366 3B Iwamura, Akinori 7 30 .284
2B Pedroia, Dustin 7 49 .318 DH Norton, Greg 4 20 .230
DH Ortiz, David 31 107 .319 1B Pena, Carlos 40 112 .277
3B Lowell, Mike 19 109 .327 CF Upton, BJ 24 82 .307
RF Kielty, Bobby 1 8 .244 RF Young, Delmon 12 90 .290
C Varitek, Jason 13 63 .252 LF Gomes, Jonny 16 45 .249
CF Crisp, Coco 6 59 .270 C Navarro, Dioner 8 42 .230
SS Lugo, Julio 7 71 .240 2B Velandia, Jorge 0 3 .600
1B Hinske, Eric 6 21 .216 SS Wilson, Josh 2 23 .263
P Beckett, Josh (19-6, 3.20) P Kazmir, Scott (13-8, 3.54)
------ ---------
Pos Player HR RBI AVG. Pos Player HR RBI AVG.
--- ------ -- --- ---- --- ------ -- --- ----
LF Ellsbury, Jacoby 3 14 .366 3B Iwamura, Akinori 7 30 .284
2B Pedroia, Dustin 7 49 .318 DH Norton, Greg 4 20 .230
DH Ortiz, David 31 107 .319 1B Pena, Carlos 40 112 .277
3B Lowell, Mike 19 109 .327 CF Upton, BJ 24 82 .307
RF Kielty, Bobby 1 8 .244 RF Young, Delmon 12 90 .290
C Varitek, Jason 13 63 .252 LF Gomes, Jonny 16 45 .249
CF Crisp, Coco 6 59 .270 C Navarro, Dioner 8 42 .230
SS Lugo, Julio 7 71 .240 2B Velandia, Jorge 0 3 .600
1B Hinske, Eric 6 21 .216 SS Wilson, Josh 2 23 .263
P Beckett, Josh (19-6, 3.20) P Kazmir, Scott (13-8, 3.54)
09/21 18:15:43 ET
WOW! TB lineup has more HR's then our lineup for tonight ( 93 vs 113 if I did the math correctly )
( 93 vs 113 if I did the math correctly )
QUOTE(SFFM38 @ Sep 21 2007, 03:58 PM)
WOW! TB lineup has more HR's then our lineup for tonight ( 93 vs 113 if I did the math correctly )
( 93 vs 113 if I did the math correctly )They also have more guys hitting .600 or better.
Damn. This is going to be a tough one.
And by "tough," I mean "blowout." 11-2, Sox.
Which is especially nice because Scott Kazmir's face makes me want to beat him up.
QUOTE(acr @ Sep 21 2007, 05:11 PM)
I don't have a link, but I read from a Rays fan on another board that Kazmir is on a 100-pitch limit for the remainder of the year. That should help us a bit.
There are Rays fans? And they have boards?
... NAVARRO
Lucky. There was no way Ortiz was driving that run in. Kazmir looked pretty good. C'mon Josh.
Is there ever be a game that we can watch somewhat relaxed??? WTF?
Reading Beckett's lips as he walks off the mound is always fun. At least it shows he cares.
Hinske, bitches.
Hinske.
Hinske.
Looks like everyone is busy tonight but I will cheer those two runs and all the pitches Kazmir has thrown this inning.
Uh, Scotty boy, that's not the catcher you're supposed to throw the ball to.
Can our batting coach tell the team not to swing at Kazmir's high fastballs???How many batters have to fall for this?
QUOTE(amanuel777 @ Sep 21 2007, 05:14 PM)
Can our batting coach tell the team not to swing at Kazmir's high fastballs???How many batters have to fall for this?
Much easier said than done.
QUOTE(Yaz888 @ Sep 21 2007, 08:16 PM)
Much easier said than done.
I know, but it's so damn obvious that this is the only pitch that Kaz has going for him tonight.
It hurt me see Mike Lowell fall for it and Lugo go for it twice in a row.
Oh wow!! THe Sox have a lead!! All right!!
That is an awfully high pitch count after only four. He's primed for a Japanese version of a Matsuzaka game. 160+ pitches.
QUOTE(fanrw @ Sep 21 2007, 08:47 PM)
That is an awfully high pitch count after only four. He's primed for a Japanese version of a Matsuzaka game. 160+ pitches.
According to someone on page 4, the Rays intend to keep Kazmir on a 100pitch limit. Time for some D-Ray BP action
You would think as a catcher that Varitek would at least have a vague idea of where the strike zone is. God he's awful. And overated.
We're going to regret not getting a few more here.
We're going to regret not getting a few more here.
pwn3d.
Wow, no one saw the last sequence coming, did they?
Wow, no one saw the last sequence coming, did they?
Stranding the bases loaded again...ugh...
Hope Beckett can give us at least 6, and the pen holds #20 for him
Hope Beckett can give us at least 6, and the pen holds #20 for him
I know we are not playing the yanks for rest of this season, but it sure hell feels like it!
What a play by Ellsbury.
Holy crap. I'm glad HE'S trying anyway.
I have to tell you, I'm really starting to love this kid. In a mostly heterosexual way.
I have to tell you, I'm really starting to love this kid. In a mostly heterosexual way.
That was a great catch by Ellsbury.
Beckett is at 100 pitches extactly, freaking Rays are working up his PC... I would let him out for 1 more inning but at the same time get the bullpen to start warming up! Paging Tito!
EDIT: BTW O/U Lugo will be batting at .245 by the time all 162 games are done!
EDIT: BTW O/U Lugo will be batting at .245 by the time all 162 games are done!
Beckett looks much better now, too bad he threw so many pitches in the first 3 innings. Looks like he will be done after 6.
100 pitches, but I'd let him start the 6th.
EARTH TO TITO: HAVE SOMEONE WARMING.
EARTH TO TITO: HAVE SOMEONE WARMING.
Contrast Beckett's 100 pitches through 5 with Halladay's 82 pitches through 7. Jays 2-0.
I think Gagne is due a little tune up work, eh??
FYI: Doc Halladay is pitching one great game! Hes just at 82 pitches and he has gone 7 innings! 2-0 Toronto up
Kazmir's out! Maybe we can actually string some hits together.
QUOTE(dtkendrick @ Sep 21 2007, 09:09 PM)
I think Gagne is due a little tune up work, eh??
Shh, dont let Tito hear this!
QUOTE(SFFM38 @ Sep 21 2007, 09:10 PM)
Shh, dont let Tito hear this!
What do you mean?! We gotta see if he's ready for October!
Rios 2 run shot. Jays 4-0.
Woohoo, Alex Rios can hit someone other than the Red Sox!
Gagne is ready for October!! October of 3 years ago.
All kidding aside, I think we better brace ourselves for Gag-me. Tito said they're going to give another try and this game is lining up as the perfect chance. Beckett's done after six and it's a close game.
Not saying I'm for it, just that it's probably going to happen. Get your puke bags ready.
Not saying I'm for it, just that it's probably going to happen. Get your puke bags ready.
QUOTE(MFLetou @ Sep 21 2007, 09:02 PM)
Holy crap. I'm glad HE'S trying anyway.
I have to tell you, I'm really starting to love this kid. In a mostly heterosexual way.
I have to tell you, I'm really starting to love this kid. In a mostly heterosexual way.
"Mostly"?
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