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BillyJo
I wandered in to a Modell's in Manhattan last night, and they were selling those "Beat Boston, Again and Again" shirts. They were being sold for full price!

For those of you who haven't seen them, on the back it compares the numbers of AL East Titles, Pennants, Championships and Hall of Famers the two team have.

As of Sunday night, two numbers are already wrong - they do not reflect the Sox recent division title, nor the number of Pennants the Sox have won.

After the 2004 World Series, Yankee fans probably bought almost as many shirts as Sox fans to commemorate the occasion (Got Rings? Even Idiots are Lucky Every 86 Years). My question to all of you is, if the Sox do win the WS this year, do you think Yankee fans will go out and buy updated shirts?

I was at Game 3 in NY this year, and probably 10-20% of the crowd was wearing these types of shirts. It wasn't too long ago that you would go to a game there, and the fans would pretty much ignore the Sox (unless Boston was in town).
Red Sox Fan2
I don't get why this would be a bad hat to buy. The Red Sox had the best record in all of baseball (tied with the Indians but had a better record against). The fact that they were down 14.5 games at one point and were below .500 to suddenly pull within 2 games of the Sox is incredible. The Yankees had to upset plenty of teams in order to win the wild card.
DominusNovus
QUOTE(Red Sox Fan2 @ Oct 23 2007, 09:22 AM) *
I don't get why this would be a bad hat to buy. The Red Sox had the best record in all of baseball (tied with the Indians but had a better record against). The fact that they were down 14.5 games at one point and were below .500 to suddenly pull within 2 games of the Sox is incredible. The Yankees had to upset plenty of teams in order to win the wild card.


I think this article explains why.

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NEW YORK—Saying the American League wild-card bid is "beneath the dignity of the Yankees organization" and "an affront to everything [we] stand for," New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner and manager Joe Torre told reporters during a press conference Wednesday that the Yankees have respectfully declined the opportunity to participate in Major League Baseball's postseason if they have to do so as the American League's wild-card team.

"On behalf of the entire Yankee team: Thanks, but no thanks," said Steinbrenner, adding that the Yankees would only play in the 2007 playoffs if they were able to take their "rightful place" as the American League East representatives. "Please don't patronize us with by making us the wild card. The New York Yankees aren't wild cards. We're the New York Yankees, for God's sake. The New York Yankees. And we have our dignity."

"Wild card?" Steinbrenner added. "Please."

The announcement came following a three-hour meeting between Steinbrenner, Torre, and baseball Commissioner Bud Selig, in which both Torre and Steinbrenner attempted to convince the commissioner that the Yankees were anything but wild cards—a position Steinbrenner later called "demeaning and pathetic."

"We're not an unproven, intermediate expansion team whose qualities are unknown and whose team character has not been established," said Steinbrenner, referring to the strict definition of a wild card. "The wild card is for those lesser organizations, teams like the Colorado Rockies, or—ugh, I can't believe I am actually going to utter their name—the 'Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.'"

"You have to consider the elite pedigree of this historic franchise," Torre added. "The Yankees have won 26 World Series titles and 39 American League pennants. To even think we would reduce ourselves to such an embarrassing position is an absurdity bordering on insanity. We might as well drop down to Single A."

The Yankees, who finished the season with a 94-68 record, leaving them two games behind the Boston Red Sox in the AL East standings, are in fact statistically the American League wild-card team. Torre maintained, however, that the Yankees are above statistics, and answer to a "much higher calling."

"We have family, friends, and billions upon billions of fans who deserve much more than for us to just submit to being spat upon," Torre said. "The fact that we have, in the past, even participated in divisional series and league championship series is beneath us. I've been saying for some time that the Yankees should only have to play in one game the entire year: an intrasquad match to decide the world champion."

Though the Yankees did accept wild-card births in both the 1995 and 1997 seasons, Steinbrenner said he was not made aware of it at the time. Had he been, the Yankees' controversial, often polarizing owner stated, he would have most assuredly pulled his team out of the playoffs to show respect for Yankee greats such as Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, and Mickey Mantle—none of whom, Steinbrenner said, ever donned the pinstripes as a wild-card team.

The wild-card system was introduced by Commissioner Selig in 1995.

"I'm not even sure how this, what do you call it, 'wild card?' Right…how this wild card even works," said Yankees shortstop and team captain Derek Jeter, who made "air quotes" gestures every time he uttered the phrase. "Can a team even make it to the World Series from such a position? Seems like charity to me. And the Yankees are nobody's charity case."

"Try to remember that the Yankees are blessed by God himself," Jeter added. "If God wanted us to be a wild-card team, He would have done so when He created the Yankees over 100 years ago."

When informed three of the last five World Series titles were, in fact, won by wild-card teams, catcher Jorge Posada stated that it was because other Major-League clubs acted out of the weakness of false sentiment, having felt sorry for "those lesser teams' lowly, disgusting, and frankly wretched position."

"How do you think Florida beat us in 2003?" Posada said. "Because the Yankees are too classy a ball club to beat up on a clearly inferior team."

Though the majority of the Yankee team affirmed their commitment to boycotting the playoffs if their wild-card status is not "corrected," third baseman Alex Rodriguez stated he would still play, adding that with so many Yankees out of the lineup he would get more at-bats, more balls hit to him in the field, and would finally get a chance to pitch, a position Rodriguez said he is "probably pretty good at."
Red Sox Fan2
Damn you, I read this entire article thinking it was real enraged.gif

Figured this was off the wall when they started having "players" comment. Funny stuff from the Onion.

Next time I'll click the link first wink.gif
DominusNovus
QUOTE(Red Sox Fan2 @ Oct 24 2007, 01:31 PM) *
Damn you, I read this entire article thinking it was real enraged.gif

Figured this was off the wall when they started having "players" comment. Funny stuff from the Onion.

Next time I'll click the link first wink.gif


hahah, too good, too good. I've done that myself, though, once or twice. It makes the article all the more enjoyable.
The Cerebral Jason
So when do they start printing the "The difference between a true winner (insert Red Sox logo) and a true pretender (insert Yankees logo) is night and day?"
VoteRiceIn

My favorite t-shirt that's being hawked by amazon.com




The team Yank fans will be telling their children about:

WesternCorrespondent
Ha! I recognized that as an Onion article right away. I'm catching on... smile.gif

"On behalf of the entire Yankee team: Thanks, but no thanks," said Steinbrenner, adding that the Yankees would only play in the 2007 playoffs if they were able to take their "rightful place" as the American League East representatives. "Please don't patronize us with by making us the wild card. The New York Yankees aren't wild cards. We're the New York Yankees, for God's sake. The New York Yankees. And we have our dignity."

The funniest thing about this Onion quote is that it was remarkably similar to Joe Girardi's praise of the Yankee organization in his press conference introduction speech to the media yesterday.

"....This is the New York Yankees. This is a stable organization. It's not going anywhere. And it'd going to be here long after we are all gone. This is the NEW YORK YANKEES!"
RSN Diaspora
QUOTE(The Cerebral Jason @ Nov 2 2007, 11:44 AM) *
So when do they start printing the "The difference between a true winner (insert Red Sox logo) and a true pretender (insert Yankees logo) is night and day?"


Tomorrow. Are you available to help?
The Cerebral Jason
QUOTE(RSN Diaspora @ Nov 2 2007, 02:18 PM) *
Tomorrow. Are you available to help?


Absolutely. thumbsup.gif
Sox Sweep Again
QUOTE(CrazyJoeDavola @ Oct 1 2007, 10:00 PM) *


I would surmise that the biggest market for these hats will be fans of other teams buying them as Christmas gifts for their Yank-fan buddies.
BigSlick
QUOTE(Sox Sweep Again @ Nov 2 2007, 03:58 PM) *
I would surmise that the biggest market for these hats will be fans of other teams buying them as Christmas gifts for their Yank-fan buddies.


Thanks for the idea... hehehe
RSNLoyalty04
QUOTE(WesternCorrespondent @ Nov 2 2007, 12:54 PM) *
Ha! I recognized that as an Onion article right away. I'm catching on... smile.gif

"On behalf of the entire Yankee team: Thanks, but no thanks," said Steinbrenner, adding that the Yankees would only play in the 2007 playoffs if they were able to take their "rightful place" as the American League East representatives. "Please don't patronize us with by making us the wild card. The New York Yankees aren't wild cards. We're the New York Yankees, for God's sake. The New York Yankees. And we have our dignity."

The funniest thing about this Onion quote is that it was remarkably similar to Joe Girardi's praise of the Yankee organization in his press conference introduction speech to the media yesterday.

"....This is the New York Yankees. This is a stable organization. It's not going anywhere. And it'd going to be here long after we are all gone. This is the NEW YORK YANKEES!"


"THESE ARE" for Christs sake. That part of the Girardi conference kept irritating me the more he said it. Plus the 27 jersey. whistle.gif
chicowalker
QUOTE(Sox Sweep Again @ Nov 2 2007, 11:58 AM) *
I would surmise that the biggest market for these hats will be fans of other teams buying them as Christmas gifts for their Yank-fan buddies.


It's really tempting, but I realized a while ago I couldn't do it. If we ahd lost, it would have been meaningless, and now that the Sox won, it just seems petty. If only I had some obnoxious Yankee fan acquaintances (as opposed to my friends, who are pretty good about all of it)...
BigSlick
QUOTE(chicowalker @ Nov 10 2007, 01:03 PM) *
It's really tempting, but I realized a while ago I couldn't do it. If we ahd lost, it would have been meaningless, and now that the Sox won, it just seems petty. If only I had some obnoxious Yankee fan acquaintances (as opposed to my friends, who are pretty good about all of it)...


They HAVE to be good about it now. The question is how were they between the day you met them and game 3 of 2004?
chicowalker
QUOTE(BigSlick @ Nov 10 2007, 10:26 AM) *
They HAVE to be good about it now. The question is how were they between the day you met them and game 3 of 2004?


? They were fine -- we had great Sox/Yanks talk (and trashtalk) all the time. Not all Yankees fans are d*****bags, just like not all Sox fans are.
Ellis Greenwell
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"My mustache almost attacked it." -- Ron Guidry


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