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Caspir
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"He's focusing on baseball and needs someone whose interests are aligned," Oseary told Daily Variety, explaining the rare move of an athlete signing with a manager whose expertise is music and film. "This is to help him have more control of his image and brand."


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"Obviously, there are a tremendous amount of opportunities for Alex," Oseary said. "It's about him having someone who he respects who can look at endless possibilities. I don't look at any one area -- and these are areas he has not explored."


Arod has probably signed his final baseball contract, and Boras will egt his dough off of that. This guy figures to make some bank off of whatever marketing deals he arranges for him. The media will pretend that Boras just suffered some massive loss, I'm sure.
rominer
If Boras was the vindictive type, now would be a good time to say, "You know, Jose Canseco is a pretty honest guy."
mascho
QUOTE(rominer @ Dec 18 2007, 01:22 PM) *
If Boras was the vindictive type, now would be a good time to say, "You know, Jose Canseco is a pretty honest guy."

If he were. However, given how Sports Agency is an image business, Boras might want to be careful how he proceeds. IMO, if I were advising him, and thank god I'm not, I'd tell him to get out in front of this (to head off the eventual media fallout Caspir has predicted, which is sure to come true). Apologize for how you handled the situation with A-Rod opting out. Make it clear that A-Rod's best interests were all you ever had in mind. Praise A-Rod as an immense baseball talent and wish him the best going forward.

If he goes the vindictive route, who in their right mind would ever sign with him in the future?
NJSoxFan
So, does this mean Arod will now try his hand at an R&B alblum, and possibly a made for TV movie? Because that would be swell. Or maybe he could collaborate with Daddy Yankee on his next raggaeton alblum.
VoteRiceIn
QUOTE(NJSoxFan @ Dec 18 2007, 01:36 PM) *
So, does this mean Arod will now try his hand at an R&B alblum, and possibly a made for TV movie?



My money is on an A-Rod reality show (away from the playing field).
rominer
QUOTE(mascho @ Dec 18 2007, 10:34 AM) *
If he goes the vindictive route, who in their right mind would ever sign with him in the future?


Well, of course. I was just having a non-sexual fantasy.

In reality, hell, I'd be entirely unsurprised if Boras orchestrated the whole thing to save A-Rod's image, and will still end up getting an under the table cut of future A-Rod endorsement deals and whatnot.

Far more likely, of course, he actually really got fired. But anything is possible.
VoteRiceIn

Did anyone catch A-Rod on 60 minutes last night? If so, I'd be curious to hear impressions of the interview.

I did find this writer's take to be interesting:

America got its first look at the new A-Rod on Sunday’s edition of 60 Minutes. Gone was the pushover who snubbed the Yankees and then crawled home with his pinstripes between his legs. In his place was a man of conviction, a stone-jawed dynamo who stared down Katie Couric and laid fault exactly where it belonged:

With that awful, awful Scott Boras.

Whose client only wanted to weasel out of a nine-figure deal.

Without making a scene.

Or alienating his employer.

Or coming across as just a little, you know, money-hungry.

If he finally gets that World Series ring in 2008, he’s the toast of the Big Apple.....

....If he doesn’t, he’ll always have Scott Boras to finger—or Derek Jeter or Hank Steinbrenner or whoever else has the gall to pervert his earnest and most honorable intentions.



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Red Sox Fan2
If A-rod were serious, he would have fired Boras right before he signed a deal. Boras "supposedly" was left out of the contract negotiations, so I don’t see where keeping him gave A-rod any sort of leverage. Why give him a cent if he made you look like a egotistical greedy bastard?
jackson
Boras made $15M off the new contract. Nice going away present. The next agent just has to mind the store, make sure all the appointments are kept, keep track of the finances. That's a one-man job. Boras has other clients to tend to now. Like Varitek!

WesternCorrespondent
QUOTE(VoteRiceIn @ Dec 18 2007, 10:59 AM) *
My money is on an A-Rod reality show (away from the playing field).

We've all read plenty about ARod's tough childhood, not having a father figure, etc.

I'm willing to bet it's either a reality show in the same vein as that one that's based on Wil Smith's family, or it's a made-for-TV movie based on ARod's biography up to now (and if he hasn't written one already, he surely will with this new agent).

If it's the reality show, I hope they have one scene with "TV-Cynthia" looking through a closetful of designer tank tops, all with glittery obscenities on the back... smile.gif (and I wish Katie Couric asked her about that)
buffs4444
QUOTE(jackson @ Dec 18 2007, 02:17 PM) *
Boras made $15M off the new contract. Nice going away present.


Exactly.

Boras: I think you should opt out.
<cha-ching!>
A-Rod: Here's $15 million
jackson
Looks like A-Rod is keeping Boras around:

NEW YORK (AP)-- A-Rod is adding some Hollywood glitz to his management team.

Alex Rodriguez hired Guy Oseary, who has worked with Madonna and Lenny Kravitz, to be his manager. Oseary is not a registered baseball agent, and Scott Boras remains A-Rod's representative on baseball matters.

TommyK8
QUOTE(jackson @ Dec 19 2007, 05:10 PM) *
Looks like A-Rod is keeping Boras around:

NEW YORK (AP)-- A-Rod is adding some Hollywood glitz to his management team.

Alex Rodriguez hired Guy Oseary, who has worked with Madonna and Lenny Kravitz, to be his manager. Oseary is not a registered baseball agent, and Scott Boras remains A-Rod's representative on baseball matters.

Does anyone, anywhere, no matter what team you are a fan of, honestly believe that Boras opted out of the Yankee deal without ARod's consent? Does anyone believe he acted unilaterally? And did not advise ARod of his game plan for when he planned to announce it? Supposedly the reason ARod opted out was that he was unsure of the Yankees future with so many key free agents.

The end result is that Boras fell on his sword in public, but he couldn't have orchestrated or planned it any better in terms of the end result for ARod. ARod got everything in terms of money and years he could have ever hoped for, and came out looking like the good guy and Boras was left to look like the greedy jerk. Brilliant!

But, we weren't born yesterday.
jackson
QUOTE(TommyK8 @ Dec 19 2007, 05:49 PM) *
Does anyone, anywhere, no matter what team you are a fan of, honestly believe that Boras opted out of the Yankee deal without ARod's consent? Does anyone believe he acted unilaterally? And did not advise ARod of his game plan for when he planned to announce it? Supposedly the reason ARod opted out was that he was unsure of the Yankees future with so many key free agents.

The end result is that Boras fell on his sword in public, but he couldn't have orchestrated or planned it any better in terms of the end result for ARod. ARod got everything in terms of money and years he could have ever hoped for, and came out looking like the good guy and Boras was left to look like the greedy jerk. Brilliant!

But, we weren't born yesterday.

agreed.

only thing i care about is the yanks signed the four free agents they stood to lose. don't need to hear about the length and salary, TK. they got their four guys back for 2008.

it's good to talk real baseball again. the mitchell report sort of took the spotlight away from that.
Sox Sweep Again
QUOTE(TommyK8 @ Dec 19 2007, 03:49 PM) *
Does anyone, anywhere, no matter what team you are a fan of, honestly believe that Boras opted out of the Yankee deal without ARod's consent? Does anyone believe he acted unilaterally? And did not advise ARod of his game plan for when he planned to announce it? Supposedly the reason ARod opted out was that he was unsure of the Yankees future with so many key free agents.

The end result is that Boras fell on his sword in public, but he couldn't have orchestrated or planned it any better in terms of the end result for ARod. ARod got everything in terms of money and years he could have ever hoped for, and came out looking like the good guy and Boras was left to look like the greedy jerk. Brilliant!

But, we weren't born yesterday.


Nope. I don't believe for a second that the entire thing hasn't been scripted for months, and that we're nearing the end of the script.

Michael Kay even predicted that the Yankees would re-open negotiations with A-Rod under the pretenses of "Well, he's cutting 21 million that the Rangers would have paid the Yankees off his demand". That happened. A-Rod needs an image boost and to prove that he "Truly wants to be A YankeeTM".

Yankee fans now have a reason to welcome his altruistic soul back to the Bronx, and Boras still gets his cash for himself and his man. I still think the Yankees vastly overpaid, though. Which means Boras really did a great job.
jackson
Get ready for A-Rod on "Dancing With the Stars" next year. The producers have discovered that athletes are their most popular contestants. Maybe that's why A-Rod got the entertainment agent. mellow.gif
WesternCorrespondent
QUOTE(jackson @ Dec 19 2007, 04:25 PM) *
Get ready for A-Rod on "Dancing With the Stars" next year. The producers have discovered that athletes are their most popular contestants. Maybe that's why A-Rod got the entertainment agent. mellow.gif

Hey, jackson....? I DID see ARod "dancing with the stars" -- in his first game as a Texas Ranger.... biggrin.gif

Problem is, he was the equivalent of the kid at the prom with not one dancing lesson to his credit. He tripped over his shoelaces TWICE in that game.

(I'm almost afraid to make a joke about him hopefully being a lot lighter on his feet these days, people tend to take things the wrong way, especially about Yankee players)
jackson
QUOTE(WesternCorrespondent @ Dec 19 2007, 08:06 PM) *
Hey, jackson....? I DID see ARod "dancing with the stars" -- in his first game as a Texas Ranger.... biggrin.gif

Problem is, he was the equivalent of the kid at the prom with not one dancing lesson to his credit. He tripped over his shoelaces TWICE in that game.

(I'm almost afraid to make a joke about him hopefully being a lot lighter on his feet these days, people tend to take things the wrong way, especially about Yankee players)

A-Rod will be dancing on your Mariners next season the way Malcolm McDowell did with his "Singing In The Rain" spoof in "Clockwork Orange."

That's a reference probably only the two of us will get. mellow.gif
MFLetou
I was going to say from the beginning that I thought this headline was wrong.

I never saw anywhere that ARod had fired Boras--he just hired an entertainment oriented agent to handle those matters. That really isn't what Boras does anyway.
BronxByTheBay
QUOTE(Sox Sweep Again @ Dec 19 2007, 04:17 PM) *
I still think the Yankees vastly overpaid, though. Which means Boras really did a great job.


I thought the same thing when the deal was first announced, but in light of Torii Hunter's contract, do you really believe A-Rod wasn't going to get, say, $25 million from someone? Maybe not 10 years, but the money would have probably been similar.
CTYankeefan
QUOTE(TommyK8 @ Dec 19 2007, 05:49 PM) *
Does anyone, anywhere, no matter what team you are a fan of, honestly believe that Boras opted out of the Yankee deal without ARod's consent? Does anyone believe he acted unilaterally? And did not advise ARod of his game plan for when he planned to announce it? Supposedly the reason ARod opted out was that he was unsure of the Yankees future with so many key free agents.

The end result is that Boras fell on his sword in public, but he couldn't have orchestrated or planned it any better in terms of the end result for ARod. ARod got everything in terms of money and years he could have ever hoped for, and came out looking like the good guy and Boras was left to look like the greedy jerk. Brilliant!

But, we weren't born yesterday.


I don't think Boras opted out with A-Rod's consent, but are you saying Alex told Boras to do it in the middle of a World Series game? Also when and where did Alex even say Boras opted out without his okay?
WesternCorrespondent
Slightly off topic, but within the confines of talking about ARod and Boras:

Someone over at SoSH posted the link http://youbeenblinded.com/wp-content/uploa...d-hp-binder.pdf to a PDF file of the Prospectus issued in 2000 by Scott Boras when Alex Rodriguez was seeking the fame and fortune he wasn't about to find as a Seattle Mariner.

I've always been saying it was 50 pages. I guess I was wrong; Boras managed to pad it out to 73 pages...wow.

I got a kick out of Page 11, where Boras brags rather speciously that "compared to HOF shortstops, Rodriguez towers above the field in HRs at age 24".

Right. Since ARod started his MLB career at age 18, he had 6+ years in the majors (7 calendar years) by age 24, hitting in the HR-friendly Kingdome for most of that time.

The next name down on Boras' list -- Ernie Banks -- has only 65 HRs by age 24. But he was a rookie at age 22. If you look at Banks' first 7 years, he has 228 HRs. (great comparison, Boras!)

If the next guy, Travis Jackson, had any power at all it was eaten up by the Polo Grounds, unless he managed to hit either to extreme LF or extreme RF. He also was a rookie at 18, but understandably logged only 60 HRs in 7 seasons. (equally "interesting" comparison)

Robin Yount is listed 4th, and he performed in a pitcher-friendly ballpark his 1st 7 years, one in which a stalwart like George Scott topped the club with 20 and 24 HRs in the 72-73 seasons. Yount hit a total of 57 HRs in 7 years, and is described as "a scrawny shortstop" who didn't develop a line-drive stroke until that 7th year. (this comparison is even more laughable)

Going through the "HOF Shortstops, RBIs" and "HOF Shortstops, SLG%" lists, one can easily poke holes in those comparisons too, where Boras mixes multiple leagues, eras, and ballpark factors without distinction.

No wonder even then-Mets GM Steve Phillips laughed at Boras and this prospectus back in 2000...
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