I have noticed that NESN now only shows the score, pitch count and runners on base when the pitcher throws the ball.

Yesterday I was in a bar and for the early part of the game they had the sound on the Celtics game and I got annoyed that a simple glance at the Sox screen didn't tell me what the game situation was.

Anybody else notice this?

Yes, It is weird that they don't leave it up constantly anymore.

Yes, I have noticed this and it is driving me crazy. I'm often doing other things while the game is on, so the little scoreboard line is enormously helpful. And yet it's frequently not there when I glance at the t.v. And it's awful when you're at a bar, like you mentioned. I initially passed it off as graphics trouble but this has been going on for weeks now.

I just wish I could get NESN. Yes, I could move back, but wife and I don't like cold winters anymore. Maybe someday 6 mos. in NE and 6 mo. in CA, or Las Vegas. That does sound weird though. So what's the big thing about the view given by the new CF camera? Can somebody describe it?

The new camera angle is dead behind the pitcher. Everything looks weird. I dont know if I like it or hate it... it just looks weird to me still. They changed it Thursday I think.

I like the camera angle.
perfect view of what is and isn't a strike.

The camera angle does take some getting used to, but it is fantastic. Because you are looking at it straight on there is no question about if a pitch caught the corner or not. With the old angle you had to imagine the pitch a couple of inches to the right.

Agreed, the new camera angle is great (after the weirdness wears off).

My main gripe is that the new camera shakes like crazy. Its not as clear or as steady as the older camera.

Deciding to that during a stretch when the Sox are playing games at the same time as Celtics playoff games is particularly bad timing. I've been flipping to the Sox during timeouts, etc...and I end up having to rewind (thank you dual tuner Tivo) just to figure out what's even going on in the game.



It's an improvement. It's still in two dimensions, though, so I'm not going so far as to say "no question" just yet. If you want certainty, you need a camera directly above the plate looking down. And that would still only tell you if it's over the plate, not if it's high or low when it crosses the plate. No certainty in 2D.

What I like best about the new and improved angle is how much more noticeable the movement on certain pitches is.

I remember watching Derek Lowe warm up one time from directly behind the catcher and just being amazed that anyone could ever hit anything he threw – the ball was just jumping, diving, darting all over the place. (The one and only thing I like about the ballpark in Anaheim: the cheap seats right behind the catcher in the visitor's bullpen.)

From the traditional slightly left CF angle, you get a little bit of a sense of pitch movement - but never anything that dramatic. Some of the sinkers and cut fastballs from the new angle have looked downright filthy. It's not quite what the batter sees, but it does give you a better sense of what big league hitters are up against.

the more surprising thing, to me, is that NESN is debuting this in May.

they had all offseason to get this in place.
same thing with the sideline "reporter" they just hired.

what are they doing all offseason?

Patriots, Bruins and Celtics?

Bruins, OK.
how many Patriots & Celtics games does NESN televise?

Ha...NESN barely even acknowledges that the Celtics even exist.

BRING BACK THE DAMN banner.

It took me a few innings to get used to the new CF angle, but I love it now. You can pick up movement on the pitches better from this new view. Also, as stated previously, I think it gives a better frame on the strike zone.

I got used to the new CF camera angle...just in time for a 10-game road trip where I will be forced to watch FSN Detroit, FSN North, and MASN. At least Palmer is a respectable color analyst, but I miss the CF view of the strike zone already.

NESN only has the views for home games anyway.

True, but losing the NESN feed and the camera angle is just a double-whammy.

I'm not going to say that I don't prefer having the banner up at all times but it's absence does have it's upsides.

I've got a small TV by today's standards (32 inch) and with the absence of the banner my TV now has the illusion of being much larger! It's kind of old school too, almost like watching a NESN broadcast of ‘Red Sox Classics’ but with a better overall team & better road uniforms than they were sporting in the 80’s. Also, sometimes on ESPN I have trouble finding the box on the screen where the actual game is being played (exaggerating of course).

The new CF camera angle is revolutionary, IMO. The amount of pitch movement seen before was almost nil. Just up and down, barely any indication of horizontal movement. Almost impossible to tell how far inside-outside a pitch was without using the catcher or batter's reaction as a frame of reference. Also, I never noticed how open Papi's stance is. It's the best thing that's happened to baseball telecasts since random announcerless audio feeds.

Anyone else having new-centerfield-angle withdrawals?

I don't know how I'm going to cope without the new CF angle for another week.

Sit to the left of your TV.

Thx!