Game time: 7:10 pm
Scheduled starters: Daisuke Matsuzaka (9-1, 3.21) v. Scott Kazmir (7-3, 2.28)
The game will be on NESN and ESPN outside the Boston area
Tampa Bay weather: 4 pm observation at KTPA: wind out of the southwest at 7 mph, visibility 10 miles, few clouds at 2,000 feet, scattered clouds at 3,500 feet with towering cumulus, broken layer at 25,000 feet, temperature 85F, DP 71F
Forecast: There's a chance of showers and thundershowers ahead of a weakening cold front that's at the FL/GA border. But not inside...
Full Version: BOSTON at Tampa Bay, Wednesday, July 2, 2008
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Boston Tampa Bay
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Pos Player HR RBI AVG. Pos Player HR RBI AVG.
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CF Ellsbury, Jacoby 5 24 .271 2B Iwamura, Akinori 5 23 .276
2B Pedroia, Dustin 8 37 .303 LF Crawford, Carl 8 44 .272
RF Drew, J.D. 16 50 .299 CF Upton, B.J. 6 41 .280
DH Ramirez, Manny 16 52 .283 1B Pena, Carlos 11 37 .226
3B Lowell, Mike 12 47 .299 3B Longoria, Evan 15 47 .268
1B Youkilis, Kevin 13 50 .308 DH Floyd, Cliff 6 15 .248
C Varitek, Jason 7 26 .220 C Navarro, Dioner 4 33 .316
LF Moss, Brandon 2 8 .262 RF Hinske, Eric 13 44 .265
SS Lugo, Julio 1 18 .269 SS Bartlett, Jason 0 18 .253
P Matsuzaka, Daisuke (9-1, 3.21) P Kazmir, Scott (7-3, 2.28)
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Pos Player HR RBI AVG. Pos Player HR RBI AVG.
--- ------ -- --- ---- --- ------ -- --- ----
CF Ellsbury, Jacoby 5 24 .271 2B Iwamura, Akinori 5 23 .276
2B Pedroia, Dustin 8 37 .303 LF Crawford, Carl 8 44 .272
RF Drew, J.D. 16 50 .299 CF Upton, B.J. 6 41 .280
DH Ramirez, Manny 16 52 .283 1B Pena, Carlos 11 37 .226
3B Lowell, Mike 12 47 .299 3B Longoria, Evan 15 47 .268
1B Youkilis, Kevin 13 50 .308 DH Floyd, Cliff 6 15 .248
C Varitek, Jason 7 26 .220 C Navarro, Dioner 4 33 .316
LF Moss, Brandon 2 8 .262 RF Hinske, Eric 13 44 .265
SS Lugo, Julio 1 18 .269 SS Bartlett, Jason 0 18 .253
P Matsuzaka, Daisuke (9-1, 3.21) P Kazmir, Scott (7-3, 2.28)
07/02 18:14:59 ET
Pede says "You ain't sweepin' us!"
Has TB scored all of its runs in this series with two outs?
Or does it just seem that way?
Or does it just seem that way?
Bring back Buchholz.
Let's be honest, I just wanted to say it.
Let's be honest, I just wanted to say it.
1 inning, 24 pitches, 9 for strikes, 3 BBs.
Someone should explain to him that there are seven guys behind him, all wearing gloves. Pitch to contact! Sometimes I think I'd rather have a root canal than watch that man pitch. It's that painful.
Someone should explain to him that there are seven guys behind him, all wearing gloves. Pitch to contact! Sometimes I think I'd rather have a root canal than watch that man pitch. It's that painful.
Two outs. Time to give up another run.
2 innings, 49 pitches, 23 for strikes, 4 BB
QUOTE(RedSoxAnni @ Jul 2 2008, 07:37 PM) 
Sometimes I think I'd rather have a root canal than watch that man pitch. It's that painful.
This implies that there are times when you'd rather watch him pitch.
QUOTE(RedSoxAnni @ Jul 2 2008, 07:37 PM)
1 inning, 24 pitches, 9 for strikes, 3 BBs.
Someone should explain to him that there are seven guys behind him, all wearing gloves. Pitch to contact! Sometimes I think I'd rather have a root canal than watch that man pitch. It's that painful.
Someone should explain to him that there are seven guys behind him, all wearing gloves. Pitch to contact! Sometimes I think I'd rather have a root canal than watch that man pitch. It's that painful.
As someone who's just had a root canal completed I can tell you that you're exaggerating in extremis
Watching Dice-K pitch is FAR more painful and they don't provide anything to numb the pain.
Edit: I'm predicting something regrettable later in this game if we don't get something done against Kazmir soon. One of those "if only we'd scored some runs when he looked so lousy early on" - while we lose, again, by one run type of recriminations.
Oh come one. The run didn't count, right?
Thats a horseshit call.
Thats a horseshit call.
QUOTE(MFLetou @ Jul 2 2008, 05:39 PM)
Oh come one. The run didn't count, right?
Thats a horseshit call.
Thats a horseshit call.
At best, it was a technically legit call that falls way outside the realm of what actually gets called these days. It's like calling a palming violation on a guy who's walking the ball up the floor in basketball. Guilty? Yes. Ever, ever, ever called? No.
With the way Pedroia is hitting, that call cost not just Varitek's run...but the two (or more) additional runs that would have followed.
Could someone elaborate for those of us who aren't watching on TV?
Never mind -
Was Carlos Peņa's last season a fluke? The guy is hitting just as good as Tek.
QUOTE(67YazWithSideburns @ Jul 2 2008, 08:58 PM)
Could someone elaborate for those of us who aren't watching on TV?
Yes, please. I have no cable right now. What happend with Pedroia?
QUOTE(Red Sox Fan2 @ Jul 2 2008, 06:17 PM)
Yes, please. I have no cable right now. What happend with Pedroia?
The runner slid into second trying to break up the double play, and strayed too far away from the bag for the second base umpire's liking.
QUOTE(67YazWithSideburns @ Jul 2 2008, 05:58 PM)
Could someone elaborate for those of us who aren't watching on TV?
Lugo broke up a double play but was called for interference, so Ellsbury was out at first base.
Lugo slid pretty far to the right of second base, but close enough that he probably could have reached 2nd base with his left hand. (Had he tried...which, granted, he did not.)
I've seen much worse not get called for interference. The call was either an anomaly or else it was based more in trying to prevent more bad blood between these teams than in what typically gets called. If they want to start calling that, that's fine. But as a one-shot deal, the timing and situation were a bit conspicuous.
QUOTE(67YazWithSideburns @ Jul 2 2008, 06:12 PM)
Never mind -
Oh. Or that.
Okie's in.
Get the white flag ready.
Get the white flag ready.
Thanks, I didn't see it so I can't really judge, but the sound of it seems a bit odd. Thankfully the Sox are up 4-1, let's just hope the BP can finish the job.
That's too bad. Especially considering that Hinske slid 5 feet to the right of 2nd last night to break up a DP and wasn't called for anything.
Nice inning for Oki. Just throw junk off the plate and watch'em hack. Who's next, Hansen? I've been hearing bad stuff about Manny. Maybe he can shut some of it up here.
Manny has been ugly this series without shoving any travelling secretaries.
Is it even possible for a Major League hitter to look worse than Varitek right now?
Tek just looks awful. Teach him how to bunt and put him in the 9 spot. If he can't learn to bunt, let the pitcher hit.
QUOTE(ivebeentruped @ Jul 2 2008, 06:50 PM)
Tek just looks awful. Teach him how to bunt and put him in the 9 spot. If he can't learn to bunt, let the pitcher hit.
I didn't realize it was 12 for 100, 101 now. Yikes. That's more than a slump.
QUOTE(ivebeentruped @ Jul 2 2008, 09:50 PM)
Tek just looks awful. Teach him how to bunt and put him in the 9 spot. If he can't learn to bunt, let the pitcher hit.
You can only replace the pitcher with the DH, not the catcher. It did sound good though.
Delcarmen is really becoming the guy we can count on to louse up a good thing.
Or is that just the bullpen in general?
Or is that just the bullpen in general?
Delcarmen failing to cover 1st base is simply inexcusable. The Red Sox are just failing at fundamentals right now.
Tampa Bay is the better team right now. There is no way around this fact.
Tampa Bay is the better team right now. There is no way around this fact.
Get him the hell outta there!!
Here comes Hansen. Hopefully he left his gas can at home.
Geez. This could get lousy in a hurry.
Hold it together guys.
Hold it together guys.
QUOTE(ivebeentruped @ Jul 2 2008, 07:01 PM)
Delcarmen failing to cover 1st base is simply inexcusable. The Red Sox are just failing at fundamentals right now.
Tampa Bay is the better team right now. There is no way around this fact.
Tampa Bay is the better team right now. There is no way around this fact.
How bad is Delcarmen? Let me count the ways, says Hershiser. Delcarmen looks totally out of it in all ways. Make a trade, get rid of him.
Sure looks as if only one of these teams considers this a big series. Then agin, it IS a much more important series for the Rays. Still, they cannot blow this lead and they cannot get swept.
They've got to hold on here.
They've got to hold on here.
QUOTE(Red Sox Fan2 @ Jul 2 2008, 06:31 PM)
Thanks, I didn't see it so I can't really judge, but the sound of it seems a bit odd. Thankfully the Sox are up 4-1, let's just hope the BP can finish the job.
It wasn't the most outrageous call ever. It's just that for the same reason (Sox/Rays) that the umps might be more inclined to make that call, I'm less inclined to forgive it.
As for the deal with the bullpen...Jesus, this is embarrassing.
QUOTE(Malzone64 @ Jul 2 2008, 06:52 PM)
I didn't realize it was 12 for 100, 101 now. Yikes. That's more than a slump.
I wonder how closely that 101 corresponds with the last time Tek missed time with "flu-like symptoms"?
Maybe not at all. It just seems like he's so late on everything, after being at least halfway decent for awhile this season, that maybe there's some lingering weakness from being sick a few times this year. Falling off a cliff from one year to the next makes sense. In mid-season, it's just weird.
QUOTE(Wakefield 49 @ Jul 2 2008, 10:03 PM)
Here comes Hansen. Hopefully he left his gas can at home.
This is sad.
If we lose this game, they should waive the entire bullpen outside of Papelbon tonight. I swear to God, what the hell is so hard about throwing strikes?
Make it stop. Please.
Here comes a grand slam now that he has to put a fastball down the middle.
Can someone on this team show a sign of life. Anyone.
This bullpen causes heart trouble.
Hansen's a f***ing basket case. Can Paps pitch three innings?
HEY TERRY, GET OF FYOUR ****ing ASS YOU BALD SON OF A BITCH AND PULL THIS PIECE OF SHIT
QUOTE(acr @ Jul 2 2008, 10:08 PM)
If we lose this game, they should waive the entire bullpen outside of Papelbon tonight. I swear to God, what the hell is so hard about throwing strikes?
I don't get it. If you are a Major League pitcher you should be able to throw strikes. If not with the breaking stuff, at LEAST the friggin fastball.
Suddenly Oki looks a lot better.
Anyone ever write a test or exam that they weren't prepared for but the questions fell the right way so you got lucky and passed?
This series, we got the wrong questions and failed spectacularly.
A whole lot of weaknesses exposed these last three games.
This series, we got the wrong questions and failed spectacularly.
A whole lot of weaknesses exposed these last three games.
This is ****ing pathetic.
This is the first time in this season where I am seriously scared that I am going to either hurt myself or destroy valuable property. That is not an exaggeration.
Gee maybe now the Red Sox will take the Rays seriously. I don't know if you've noticed, Red Sox, but they are the best team in the AL East.
Wake the f*ck up.
Wake the f*ck up.
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