Game time: 10:10 pm EDT (7:10 pm PDT)
Scheduled starters: Jon Lester (7-3, 3.38) v. Jarrod Washburn (4-8, 4.83)
The game will be on NESN.
Seattle weather: 2 pm PDT (5 pm EDT) observation at KBFI: Wind variable at 6 mph, visibility 10 miles, sky clear, temperature 71F, DP 54F
Forecast: Roof open and a starry night.
Full Version: BOSTON at Seattle, Monday, July 21, 2008
QUOTE(RedSoxAnni @ Jul 21 2008, 03:03 PM) 
Game time: 10:10 pm EDT (7:10 pm PDT)Scheduled starters: Jon Lester (7-3, 3.38) v. Jarrod Washburn (4-8, 4.83)The game will be on NESN.Seattle weather: 2 pm PDT (5 pm EDT) observation at KBFI: Wind variable at 6 mph, visibility 10 miles, sky clear, temperature 71F, DP 54FForecast: Roof open and a starry night.
So, do the heretofore lousy Mariners get their virtual B12 shots and play better with the Red Sox in town? It's happened before. If ever a team needed to buck up, or straighten up and fly right, it would be nice for the Sox to do it right now.
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Boston Seattle
------ -------
Pos Player HR RBI AVG. Pos Player HR RBI AVG.
--- ------ -- --- ---- --- ------ -- --- ----
LF Ellsbury, Jacoby 5 27 .262 RF Suzuki, Ichiro 4 23 .304
2B Pedroia, Dustin 9 47 .322 CF Bloomquist, Willie 0 7 .274
RF Drew, J.D. 17 55 .294 LF Ibanez, Raul 13 60 .278
DH Ramirez, Manny 19 62 .297 3B Beltre, Adrian 16 46 .262
3B Lowell, Mike 13 58 .287 2B Lopez, Jose 6 51 .297
1B Youkilis, Kevin 17 67 .314 DH Cairo, Miguel 0 13 .232
CF Crisp, Coco 5 22 .252 1B LaHair, Bryan 0 0 .000
C Varitek, Jason 7 28 .214 C Clement, Jeff 5 11 .168
SS Lowrie, Jed 1 7 .278 SS Betancourt, Yuniesk 3 29 .261
P Lester, Jon (7-3, 3.38) P Washburn, Jarrod (4-8, 4.83)
------ -------
Pos Player HR RBI AVG. Pos Player HR RBI AVG.
--- ------ -- --- ---- --- ------ -- --- ----
LF Ellsbury, Jacoby 5 27 .262 RF Suzuki, Ichiro 4 23 .304
2B Pedroia, Dustin 9 47 .322 CF Bloomquist, Willie 0 7 .274
RF Drew, J.D. 17 55 .294 LF Ibanez, Raul 13 60 .278
DH Ramirez, Manny 19 62 .297 3B Beltre, Adrian 16 46 .262
3B Lowell, Mike 13 58 .287 2B Lopez, Jose 6 51 .297
1B Youkilis, Kevin 17 67 .314 DH Cairo, Miguel 0 13 .232
CF Crisp, Coco 5 22 .252 1B LaHair, Bryan 0 0 .000
C Varitek, Jason 7 28 .214 C Clement, Jeff 5 11 .168
SS Lowrie, Jed 1 7 .278 SS Betancourt, Yuniesk 3 29 .261
P Lester, Jon (7-3, 3.38) P Washburn, Jarrod (4-8, 4.83)
07/21 20:54:40 ET
I love Washburn. I have no stats to back this up but he always seem to suck against the Sox.
Is anyone awake?
I mean other than Tek who just CRUSHED one.
2-0 Sox. Lester is dealing.
I mean other than Tek who just CRUSHED one.
2-0 Sox. Lester is dealing.
Tek homers!
And I just watched that play from Pedroia to save a run. I couldn't be happier.
By the way, how did Ichiro hit that ball an inch from the dirt?
And I just watched that play from Pedroia to save a run. I couldn't be happier.
By the way, how did Ichiro hit that ball an inch from the dirt?
Mariners are very impatient tonight. Lester is at 50 pitches after 5 innings, 40/10 K/B ratio. Nice! Just pump the cutter in and let the defense clean up.
I'm awake. Just heard the FSN announcers site someone's (Lowell?) SAT scores. Then I'm told that Ted is 2 for 3 with a dinger. Must still be sleeping.
Seriously now, what would it take to make Varitek abandon hitting left handed?
Did the game just suddenly cut to commercial following the second out for anyone else?
QUOTE(gerky @ Jul 22 2008, 06:01 AM)
Did the game just suddenly cut to commercial following the second out for anyone else?
Uh, no. But I'm on MLB.TV, and they are commercial-adverse anyway.I like these Lester innings. More please. Am less crazy about the squandering I've seen from the visitors' bats.
So it wasn't an injury visit to the mound, Lester just needed people to stand around him and hide the fact that he needed to adjust his cup.
Thanks Remdawg for pointing that out.
Reminds me of a story I heard Mark Grace tell about Greg Maddux. Grace was paying 1st base and Maddux threw a pitch and bent over and put his hands on his knees. Grace ran from first to the mound and asked what was wrong.
Maddux said "nothing, just stand there a minute."
Grace said "No what's wrong? Don't pitch if you're hurt."
Maddux said "I'm not hurt, I just got a hard-on and I need a minute for it to go away."
Grace replied "Wow, you really like pitching don't you?"
Thanks Remdawg for pointing that out.
Reminds me of a story I heard Mark Grace tell about Greg Maddux. Grace was paying 1st base and Maddux threw a pitch and bent over and put his hands on his knees. Grace ran from first to the mound and asked what was wrong.
Maddux said "nothing, just stand there a minute."
Grace said "No what's wrong? Don't pitch if you're hurt."
Maddux said "I'm not hurt, I just got a hard-on and I need a minute for it to go away."
Grace replied "Wow, you really like pitching don't you?"
Thanks for the chuckle, Slick. I needed it as Lester had to work out of the jam. We need more runs!!!
Nice insurance by Jed.
Huge result for Lowrie. Just what the doctor ordered.
Clutch hit by J-Lo.
Any chance this Jimenez pitcher related to the other Jimenez on Colorado Rockies team?
QUOTE(SoxAroundTheWorld @ Jul 22 2008, 12:28 AM)
Thanks for the chuckle, Slick. I needed it as Lester had to work out of the jam. We need more runs!!!
You're welcome, and we got some more runs too!!!
Tito, just remember SHORT LEASH on Lester.. 87 pitches thru 7 IP.
Hmm, not a great start to this inning...
QUOTE(SFFM38 @ Jul 22 2008, 12:47 AM)
Tito, just remember SHORT LEASH on Lester.. 87 pitches thru 7 IP.
Pssst, Tito. Didn't you hear SFFM38? That's back to back hits to lead off the inning!!!!!
Ichiro is an important batter in this inning.
I don't get why Francona's gone Grady on us the last 3 games, trying to squeeze every ounce out of Beckett, Wakefiel, and Lester, when Okajima hasn't pitched in over a week and Papelbon hasn't worked since the All-Star Game.
QUOTE(acr @ Jul 22 2008, 12:52 AM)
I don't get why Francona's gone Grady on us the last 3 games, trying to squeeze every ounce out of Beckett, Wakefiel, and Lester, when Okajima hasn't pitched in over a week and Papelbon hasn't worked since the All-Star Game.
Because Oki and the rest of the bullpen sucks and we havnt been a head in the 9th or even the eighth for paps to come in.
That's another reason why you don't leave one of your most important starters out to dry...shit like that, getting hit by comebackers.
QUOTE(zackredsox @ Jul 22 2008, 12:55 AM)
Because Oki and the rest of the bullpen sucks and we havnt been a head in the 9th or even the eighth for paps to come in.
You don't need to be ****ing "a head" in the 9th to use your best relieverI'm not saying put him in in the 7th or shit like that, but high leverage situations, such as right now, he should pitch, save situation or no.
There's the Pap we know and love!
QUOTE(zackredsox @ Jul 22 2008, 06:55 AM)
Because Oki and the rest of the bullpen sucks and we havnt been a head in the 9th or even the eighth for paps to come in.
Um, Sox were ahead in the 8th inning at least once in Anaheim...
Paps just shows why he should have gotten those other high lev innings. Huge DP!
Lowell is not having a great night.
And the Sox win a game on the road. Go figure.
Water! Good Night all.
Water, just in time to go to work. Have a good day, all!
just making sure, Orsillo was wrong when he said that it wasn't a save situation, right? 2 men on, up 4-0 -- that's a save opportunity, it didn't just become one when the Ms loaded the bases.
Any help?
Any help?
Correct. Papelbon got the save.
Howd Lowe look? He was really good when he first came up a few years ago.
Howd Lowe look? He was really good when he first came up a few years ago.
QUOTE(Renton @ Jul 22 2008, 08:24 AM)
Howd Lowe look? He was really good when he first came up a few years ago.
I'd say Lowe looked quite good when he threw strikes. His problem was finding the zone. Sounds familiar, eh?
Much needed win - just saw the highlights.
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Boston ab r h 2b 3b hr rbi w k avg.
Ellsbury, Jacoby lf 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .262
Pedroia, Dustin 2b 5 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .320
Drew, J.D. rf 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 .290
Ramirez, Manny dh 5 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .301
Moss, Brandon pr-dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .295
Lowell, Mike 3b 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .282
Youkilis, Kevin 1b 3 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 .314
Crisp, Coco cf 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 3 1 .255
Varitek, Jason c 4 1 2 0 0 1 2 1 1 .218
Lowrie, Jed ss 3 0 2 0 0 0 2 1 0 .298
Totals 35 4 11 0 0 1 4 7 5
Seattle ab r h 2b 3b hr rbi w k avg.
Suzuki, Ichiro rf 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .301
Bloomquist, Willie cf 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .273
Ibanez, Raul lf 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .278
Beltre, Adrian 3b 4 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .264
Lopez, Jose 2b 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .297
Cairo, Miguel dh 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .225
Reed, Jeremy ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .256
LaHair, Bryan 1b 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000
Vidro, Jose ph-1b 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .222
Clement, Jeff c 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .172
Betancourt, Yuniesky ss 3 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 .265
Totals 33 0 8 1 0 0 0 0 6
Boston 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 -- 4
Seattle 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -- 0
LOB_Boston 13, Seattle 6. 2B_, Y.Betancourt. HR_J.Varitek (8) off J.Washburn
S_J.Ellsbury. GIDP_J.Drew, M.Lowell, R.Ibanez, J.Lopez. DP_Boston 2
(J.Lowrie, D.Pedroia and K.Youkilis 2); Seattle 2 (J.Lopez, B.LaHair and
Y.Betancourt) (J.Washburn, J.Lopez and B.LaHair).
Boston IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA
Lester, Jon (W 8-3) 7 1-3 8 0 0 0 6 0 103-75 3.20
Papelbon, Jonathan (S 29) 1 2-3 0 0 0 0 0 0 15-10 2.34
Seattle IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA
Washburn, Jarrod (L 4-9) 5 2-3 7 2 2 2 3 1 113-63 4.75
Lowe, Mark 1 2-3 1 2 2 3 1 0 40-20 4.17
Jimenez, Cesar 2-3 1 0 0 1 0 0 14-6 0.84
Batista, Miguel 1 2 0 0 1 1 0 16-9 6.89
HBP_by M.Lowe (K.Youkilis).
T_2:57. A_37,861.
Ellsbury, Jacoby lf 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .262
Pedroia, Dustin 2b 5 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .320
Drew, J.D. rf 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 .290
Ramirez, Manny dh 5 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .301
Moss, Brandon pr-dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .295
Lowell, Mike 3b 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .282
Youkilis, Kevin 1b 3 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 .314
Crisp, Coco cf 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 3 1 .255
Varitek, Jason c 4 1 2 0 0 1 2 1 1 .218
Lowrie, Jed ss 3 0 2 0 0 0 2 1 0 .298
Totals 35 4 11 0 0 1 4 7 5
Seattle ab r h 2b 3b hr rbi w k avg.
Suzuki, Ichiro rf 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .301
Bloomquist, Willie cf 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .273
Ibanez, Raul lf 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .278
Beltre, Adrian 3b 4 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .264
Lopez, Jose 2b 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .297
Cairo, Miguel dh 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .225
Reed, Jeremy ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .256
LaHair, Bryan 1b 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000
Vidro, Jose ph-1b 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .222
Clement, Jeff c 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .172
Betancourt, Yuniesky ss 3 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 .265
Totals 33 0 8 1 0 0 0 0 6
Boston 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 -- 4
Seattle 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -- 0
LOB_Boston 13, Seattle 6. 2B_, Y.Betancourt. HR_J.Varitek (8) off J.Washburn
S_J.Ellsbury. GIDP_J.Drew, M.Lowell, R.Ibanez, J.Lopez. DP_Boston 2
(J.Lowrie, D.Pedroia and K.Youkilis 2); Seattle 2 (J.Lopez, B.LaHair and
Y.Betancourt) (J.Washburn, J.Lopez and B.LaHair).
Boston IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA
Lester, Jon (W 8-3) 7 1-3 8 0 0 0 6 0 103-75 3.20
Papelbon, Jonathan (S 29) 1 2-3 0 0 0 0 0 0 15-10 2.34
Seattle IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA
Washburn, Jarrod (L 4-9) 5 2-3 7 2 2 2 3 1 113-63 4.75
Lowe, Mark 1 2-3 1 2 2 3 1 0 40-20 4.17
Jimenez, Cesar 2-3 1 0 0 1 0 0 14-6 0.84
Batista, Miguel 1 2 0 0 1 1 0 16-9 6.89
HBP_by M.Lowe (K.Youkilis).
T_2:57. A_37,861.
QUOTE(Renton @ Jul 21 2008, 11:24 PM)
Correct. Papelbon got the save....
just to be clear, though, Orsillo was claiming that, had Papelbon been brought in a batter earlier, with men on first and second instead of bases loaded, it wouldn't have been a save
QUOTE(chicowalker @ Jul 22 2008, 03:19 PM)
just to be clear, though, Orsillo was claiming that, had Papelbon been brought in a batter earlier, with men on first and second instead of bases loaded, it wouldn't have been a save
You are correct and Orsillo was wrong. If the tying run is on base, at bat or on deck when a reliever comes in it is a save situation.
Edit: or if it's a 3 run game.
QUOTE(BigSlick @ Jul 22 2008, 05:33 PM)
You are correct and Orsillo was wrong. If the tying run is on base, at bat or on deck when a reliever comes in it is a save situation.
Edit: or if it's a 3 run game.
Edit: or if it's a 3 run game.
...or if the pitcher pitches the final three or more innings regardless of if he faces the go-ahead run.
QUOTE(RedSoxAnni @ Jul 22 2008, 09:38 PM)
...or if the pitcher pitches the final three or more innings regardless of if he faces the go-ahead run.
Correct. Didn't someone on the Sox in the last few years (Tavarez maybe?) get a save after coming in with something like a 16-1 lead?
QUOTE(BigSlick @ Jul 22 2008, 09:47 PM)
Correct. Didn't someone on the Sox in the last few years (Tavarez maybe?) get a save after coming in with something like a 16-1 lead?
I DO remember that now that you mention it... I think it was Tavarez.
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