Nothing on Boston.com yet... This is from the San Diego Union Tribune
The Union-Tribune has learned that the Boston Red Sox have claimed Padres right fielder Brian Giles off the waiver wire, if only to keep him away from the two teams with better records in the American League. Thus, Boston entered a 48-hour period in which the Sox have exclusive rights to try to work out a trade with San Diego.
Giles is not in today's starting lineup for the finale of the Padres' series with the New York Mets-- Jody Gereut's penciled in to play right field -- though Manager Bud Black said the day off was scheduled and Giles is available to play.
"Just a regular thing," Black said. "Day game, 37-year-old player."
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After Giles had cleared National League waivers, the only other two AL teams after Boston with a shot at claiming him were the AL East-leading Tampa Bay Rays and the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.
Did the Sox claim him to block Tampa Bay? Is a trade in sight?
Full Version: Sox claim Brian Giles off waivers
As Lou Gorman might say "What are we going to do with Brian Giles?"
I guess he provides insurance against a Papi breakdown, but he's not going to start ahead of Drew or Bay. It sounds like a blocking move.
I guess he provides insurance against a Papi breakdown, but he's not going to start ahead of Drew or Bay. It sounds like a blocking move.
Rotoworld and boston.com have now both picked up the Union-Tribune story. Report on boston.com says that the Red Sox are one of 10 teams that Giles has the power to veto a trade with.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds...as/extra_bases/
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds...as/extra_bases/
I like the move. We protect ourselves from him going to TB or LA. He would be a great rotational starter!
QUOTE(yankeehater @ Aug 7 2008, 12:25 PM) 
Rotoworld and boston.com have now both picked up the Union-Tribune story. Report on boston.com says that the Red Sox are one of 10 teams that Giles has the power to veto a trade with.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds...as/extra_bases/
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds...as/extra_bases/
The report on boston.com quotes the Union Tribune word for word, so there really isn't anything new.
QUOTE(RedSoxAnni @ Aug 7 2008, 01:31 PM)
The report on boston.com quotes the Union Tribune word for word, so there really isn't anything new.
That makes sense. For some reason I couldn't open the link in your original post, stupid work firewalls...So I only saw your highlights before I posted. Thanks for always keeping us up to date Anni.
Probably just a blocking move, but he wouldn't be a bad pickup, imo, if we could get him for very little (if SD wants to avoid his buyout, for example).
I doubt he wants to leave San Diego, but if were to do so, this might be an appealing scenario for him to waive his no-trade -- join a contender, tell him we won't exercise the option if he doen't want to be here longer term, and he gets a shot at the postseason and his first World Series win.
Sox get another bat off the bench, enabling them to spell Drew and Ortiz more often and providing some insurance for Youk, Ortiz, etc. He's not the player he once was, but he still gets on base at a high rate and probably has more power than his numbers indicate, due to Petco (is it still called Petco?)
I doubt he wants to leave San Diego, but if were to do so, this might be an appealing scenario for him to waive his no-trade -- join a contender, tell him we won't exercise the option if he doen't want to be here longer term, and he gets a shot at the postseason and his first World Series win.
Sox get another bat off the bench, enabling them to spell Drew and Ortiz more often and providing some insurance for Youk, Ortiz, etc. He's not the player he once was, but he still gets on base at a high rate and probably has more power than his numbers indicate, due to Petco (is it still called Petco?)
Bay, Ellsbury, Drew, Crisp and Giles makes a dangerous outfield and a very very deep rotation.
I wonder why every single team up to the last 3 passed on him. Is it the money plus the age? Seems like he could be a decent 2-month rental (with an option for next season) for the 8-10 NL teams that are still technically "in it". He still has good on-base skills.
I still think ultimately that Giles stays put. It's just a little surprising that teams like the Mets, Cards and Brewers all passed on him when they were supposedly interested in him before July 31.
I still think ultimately that Giles stays put. It's just a little surprising that teams like the Mets, Cards and Brewers all passed on him when they were supposedly interested in him before July 31.
Kevin Towers and Theo have made deals before. If a trade is gonna happen it will take a decent Minor leaguer to get the deal done.Plus Giles will have to waive his no trade clause It's a good move to keep away from the Rays. Just think in April would I have been saying " Keep him away from the Rays?" Yikes!
Players like this get picked up all the time on the waivers just to block them from other teams. This is pretty much a non-story.
And just as I say that, ESPN.com chimes in with this...
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3523657
QUOTE
The Boston Red Sox have placed a waiver claim on San Diego right fielder Brian Giles, and are negotiating to acquire the 14-year veteran from the Padres.
Giles, 37, is hitting .296 with a .391 on-base percentage, 61 walks and 44 strikeouts this season.
Boston's interest in Giles might be spurred by concern about the health of third baseman Mike Lowell, who is battling a sore hip, and designated hitter David Ortiz, who has spent time on the disabled list resting a torn tendon sheath in his left wrist.
Giles is earning $9 million this year, and his contract with the Padres has a club option for $9 million for 2009 that would climb to $11 million in the event he is traded.
Giles has a limited no-trade clause, and Boston is among the teams to which he cannot be traded without his permission.
Joe Bick, his agent, declined to discuss the situation.
Giles, 37, is hitting .296 with a .391 on-base percentage, 61 walks and 44 strikeouts this season.
Boston's interest in Giles might be spurred by concern about the health of third baseman Mike Lowell, who is battling a sore hip, and designated hitter David Ortiz, who has spent time on the disabled list resting a torn tendon sheath in his left wrist.
Giles is earning $9 million this year, and his contract with the Padres has a club option for $9 million for 2009 that would climb to $11 million in the event he is traded.
Giles has a limited no-trade clause, and Boston is among the teams to which he cannot be traded without his permission.
Joe Bick, his agent, declined to discuss the situation.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3523657
QUOTE(The Love Below @ Aug 7 2008, 11:24 AM)
And just as I say that, ESPN.com chimes in with this...
ESPN.com chimes in with crap all the time that has no basis in fact, just to block other sports sites from having it "first." This is pretty much a non-story.
QUOTE(rominer @ Aug 7 2008, 02:29 PM)
ESPN.com chimes in with crap all the time that has no basis in fact, just to block other sports sites from having it "first." This is pretty much a non-story.
Well played, Mr Tomasulo.
I guess from the standpoint of getting the veterans rested up and having a viable backup, this makes sense. If they can shuffle it around the right way to have a solid lineup out there and get this team into the playoffs, then I don't mind this move. I don't know what they do with Coco Crisp at this point, however. I am rather shocked that other teams passed on him.
QUOTE(rominer @ Aug 7 2008, 02:29 PM)
ESPN.com chimes in with crap all the time that has no basis in fact, just to block other sports sites from having it "first." This is pretty much a non-story.
The Boston Red Sox have placed a waiver claim on San Diego right fielder Brian Giles, and are negotiating to acquire the 14-year veteran from the Padres.
Well there are two clauses in that sentence. The first "the Red Sox have placed a waiver claim on Giles" IS a non-story.
The second "and are negotiating to acquire him" IS a story...if its true. I have no reason to believe its true, and I have no idea if this is just ESPN doing a bad regurgitation of previous stories or its based on independent reporting.
If the Sox actually are trying to get him, than this is news.
Yes, what WOULD they do with Coco?...another point though, who would they option or waive to open a spot to bring him on board? Could they waive Coco (not a good idea when he would be a great defensive replacement late in games down the stretch)? With Lugo injured and Lowrie playing well in his place they can't send him down. Do they send Masterson down and risk having a thin 'pen just to have a 5th OF? I just don't see what room they have right now. It would be nice to have a guy with that kind of OBP as an insurance policy though.
QUOTE(MFLetou @ Aug 7 2008, 11:48 AM)
The Boston Red Sox have placed a waiver claim on San Diego right fielder Brian Giles, and are negotiating to acquire the 14-year veteran from the Padres.
Well there are two clauses in that sentence. The first "the Red Sox have placed a waiver claim on Giles" IS a non-story.
The second "and are negotiating to acquire him" IS a story...if its true. I have no reason to believe its true, and I have no idea if this is just ESPN doing a bad regurgitation of previous stories or its based on independent reporting.
If the Sox actually are trying to get him, than this is news.
Well there are two clauses in that sentence. The first "the Red Sox have placed a waiver claim on Giles" IS a non-story.
The second "and are negotiating to acquire him" IS a story...if its true. I have no reason to believe its true, and I have no idea if this is just ESPN doing a bad regurgitation of previous stories or its based on independent reporting.
If the Sox actually are trying to get him, than this is news.
Yes. Agreed.
You should scroll up two posts from mine. What I said will make more sense then.
I'm a tad unclear on how Brian Giles (a career OF, never played in the IF) would be insurance against a potential Mike Lowell injury. I can see him as a substitute DH if Ortiz goes down, but otherwise I'm not seeing where he plays unless 1 of our current OFers (presumably Coco) was sent to SD to acquire him.
QUOTE(HatsforBats13 @ Aug 7 2008, 02:55 PM)
Yes, what WOULD they do with Coco?...another point though, who would they option or waive to open a spot to bring him on board? Could they waive Coco (not a good idea when he would be a great defensive replacement late in games down the stretch)? With Lugo injured and Lowrie playing well in his place they can't send him down. Do they send Masterson down and risk having a thin 'pen just to have a 5th OF? I just don't see what room they have right now. It would be nice to have a guy with that kind of OBP as an insurance policy though.
Now that I think about the above quote from myself...wasn't San Diego a possible landing spot for Coco before the season when there were rumors of him being traded?
QUOTE(MFLetou @ Aug 7 2008, 11:48 AM)
The Boston Red Sox have placed a waiver claim on San Diego right fielder Brian Giles, and are negotiating to acquire the 14-year veteran from the Padres.
Well there are two clauses in that sentence. The first "the Red Sox have placed a waiver claim on Giles" IS a non-story.
The second "and are negotiating to acquire him" IS a story...if its true. I have no reason to believe its true, and I have no idea if this is just ESPN doing a bad regurgitation of previous stories or its based on independent reporting.
If the Sox actually are trying to get him, than this is news.
Well there are two clauses in that sentence. The first "the Red Sox have placed a waiver claim on Giles" IS a non-story.
The second "and are negotiating to acquire him" IS a story...if its true. I have no reason to believe its true, and I have no idea if this is just ESPN doing a bad regurgitation of previous stories or its based on independent reporting.
If the Sox actually are trying to get him, than this is news.
ESPN is splooging all over themselves so horribly about Brett Favre that I'm surprised anything else is getting any mention. I couldn't believe it last night. They completely blew off Baseball Tonight for that circus.
QUOTE(MFLetou @ Aug 7 2008, 02:48 PM)
The Boston Red Sox have placed a waiver claim on San Diego right fielder Brian Giles, and are negotiating to acquire the 14-year veteran from the Padres.
Well there are two clauses in that sentence. The first "the Red Sox have placed a waiver claim on Giles" IS a non-story.
The second "and are negotiating to acquire him" IS a story...if its true. I have no reason to believe its true, and I have no idea if this is just ESPN doing a bad regurgitation of previous stories or its based on independent reporting.
If the Sox actually are trying to get him, than this is news.
Well there are two clauses in that sentence. The first "the Red Sox have placed a waiver claim on Giles" IS a non-story.
The second "and are negotiating to acquire him" IS a story...if its true. I have no reason to believe its true, and I have no idea if this is just ESPN doing a bad regurgitation of previous stories or its based on independent reporting.
If the Sox actually are trying to get him, than this is news.
Well, he's a free agent at the end of the year (with 9 million dollar option)- so we'd net some nice draft picks. He's great Ortiz insurance on the one hand. We also keep him from Tampa and LA, which is pretty big.
Initially, this didnt make sense to me... I cant believe Giles deal is already up. It seems to me like he just signed.
QUOTE(HatsforBats13 @ Aug 7 2008, 02:58 PM)
Now that I think about the above quote from myself...wasn't San Diego a possible landing spot for Coco before the season when there were rumors of him being traded?
Bam! That was exactly what I was thinking, too. Then I thought... they just lost a shortstop, too... but I think that's asking for too much.
If Ellsbury goes back into his virtually summer-long slump, Giles goes to RF, Drew moves to CF and the offense gets a hell of a lot better. Get Coco thru waivers and trade him, or he becomes late inning defense and pinch-runner. DFA Cora.
This kind of reminds me of the Cliff Floyd acquisition.
QUOTE(HatsforBats13 @ Aug 7 2008, 02:55 PM)
Yes, what WOULD they do with Coco?...another point though, who would they option or waive to open a spot to bring him on board? Could they waive Coco (not a good idea when he would be a great defensive replacement late in games down the stretch)? With Lugo injured and Lowrie playing well in his place they can't send him down. Do they send Masterson down and risk having a thin 'pen just to have a 5th OF? I just don't see what room they have right now. It would be nice to have a guy with that kind of OBP as an insurance policy though.
What would probably happen is they would send Ellsbury down since A) he still has options, B) he probably wouldn't get as many at bats anyway, and C) he's been slumping lately (last couple games notwithstanding) and could work on things for a few weeks in AAA until rosters expand. That said, this seems more like a blocking move, and would probably create more issues than it would solve.
QUOTE(bigbilly @ Aug 7 2008, 03:03 PM)
If Ellsbury goes back into his virtually summer-long slump, Giles goes to RF, Drew moves to CF and the offense gets a hell of a lot better. Get Coco thru waivers and trade him, or he becomes late inning defense and pinch-runner. DFA Cora.
This is the right idea. I think the Sox are horrified at their CF production and know Drew can play there very capably with Giles in RF. Upgrading Ellsbury to Giles' 400 OBP really would stretch that lineup out. Ellsbury becomes a super-sub for the stretch run and I imagine Coco is the one who goes in a deal (SD needs a CF in 2009.)
This also would give them the depth needed to let Papi sit a game or two a week and keep him fresh for the stretch run.
We would be basically buying two first round draft picks with his 3 million dollar buyout.
The only real question is would he demand his option be picked up to accept the deal. That would end it pretty quick.
QUOTE(bosockboy @ Aug 7 2008, 03:30 PM)
This is the right idea. I think the Sox are horrified at their CF production and know Drew can play there very capably with Giles in RF. Upgrading Ellsbury to Giles' 400 OBP really would stretch that lineup out. Ellsbury becomes a super-sub for the stretch run and I imagine Coco is the one who goes in a deal (SD needs a CF in 2009.)
This also would give them the depth needed to let Papi sit a game or two a week and keep him fresh for the stretch run.
We would be basically buying two first round draft picks with his 3 million dollar buyout.
The only real question is would he demand his option be picked up to accept the deal. That would end it pretty quick.
This also would give them the depth needed to let Papi sit a game or two a week and keep him fresh for the stretch run.
We would be basically buying two first round draft picks with his 3 million dollar buyout.
The only real question is would he demand his option be picked up to accept the deal. That would end it pretty quick.
Why are we making the assumption Drew would move to CF? Drew is, IMHO, the best fielder of the three. I dont know for sure, but it could certainly make more sense to keep Drew in RF, Move Bay to CF(where he has played before) and slide Giles into LF. Its not a knock on Giles, who is fine, but at 37 might have some trouble if asked to play RF in Fenway every day. Its more a recognition of how good Drew has been.
QUOTE(alskor @ Aug 7 2008, 03:35 PM)
Move Bay to CF(where he has played before)
Yes, he's played center field...... forty times in his entire career, almost all in one season, and not since 2005.
QUOTE(Caspir @ Aug 7 2008, 04:04 PM)
Yes, he's played center field...... forty times in his entire career, almost all in one season, and not since 2005.
Youre probably right. Im not that optimistic about Giles in RF, though. Its the most demanding OF spot in Fenway in some ways, and Drew has been holding it down pretty well. None of them are ideal CFers...
EDIT: I dont think its a given that they would use them that way was my point. In all likelihood we'll see a mix and match situation.
QUOTE(alskor @ Aug 7 2008, 01:11 PM)
Youre probably right. Im not that optimistic about Giles in RF, though. Its the most demanding OF spot in Fenway in some ways, and Drew has been holding it down pretty well. None of them are ideal CFers...
EDIT: I dont think its a given that they would use them that way was my point. In all likelihood we'll see a mix and match situation.
EDIT: I dont think its a given that they would use them that way was my point. In all likelihood we'll see a mix and match situation.
To me, CF is just as difficult with the triangle, which gets to 420 feet from home plate, and possible weird caroms off the monster, and having to cover for 1/2 of a left fielder. Wait, he's gone. The faking bastard had another HR today for LA. I know he did a lot, and there are two sides to every story, but I'm feeling that what he did at the end is as despicable as it gets for a ballplayer. Sorry, got sidetracked. Giles has been playing almost entirely RF for the Padres, and Petco is a pretty spacious park. Would he be at least as good as Nixon was in his last few years in Boston?
Giles is old, his power has declined, and he is coming off of micro-fracture knee surgery last off-season. That being said he is an absolute on-base machine and would be a great short term addition.
It would allow Tito to play matchups...against a very good pitcher you go with Bay-Drew-Giles in the OF to maximize your offensive production.
Giles is a local San Diego guy, so he may not want to leave but the chance to be on a legitimate World Series contender again (Cleveland when he was a youngster) may be appealing to him. My guess he calls Loretta and gets the 411 on Boston, the Sox make it worth it financially and a deal gets done.
It would allow Tito to play matchups...against a very good pitcher you go with Bay-Drew-Giles in the OF to maximize your offensive production.
Giles is a local San Diego guy, so he may not want to leave but the chance to be on a legitimate World Series contender again (Cleveland when he was a youngster) may be appealing to him. My guess he calls Loretta and gets the 411 on Boston, the Sox make it worth it financially and a deal gets done.
I'm guessing their thinking is they are keeping him from TB and the LAA, and they are protecting themselves from injuries. They have to be concerned about Ortiz. And he fits their mold as a hitter who would bolster their OF. It's a case of grabbing a quality player who is available down the stretch.
QUOTE(Malzone64 @ Aug 7 2008, 05:08 PM)
To me, CF is just as difficult with the triangle, which gets to 420 feet from home plate, and possible weird caroms off the monster, and having to cover for 1/2 of a left fielder. Wait, he's gone. The faking bastard had another HR today for LA. I know he did a lot, and there are two sides to every story, but I'm feeling that what he did at the end is as despicable as it gets for a ballplayer. Sorry, got sidetracked. Giles has been playing almost entirely RF for the Padres, and Petco is a pretty spacious park. Would he be at least as good as Nixon was in his last few years in Boston?
Im more worried about a bunch of balls falling in in the vast RF than a few weird plays in the triangle.
But lets look at it this way: CF and RF are difficult. Wed put a priority on those. Now, Giles would be the worst defender of the three days youre playing them... so basically youd want him in LF. Now, if we have to divy up CF between Drew and Bay... well, I think Ill still go with Bay in CF and Drew in RF.
SSS (and against his career norms) but Giles is hitting LHP this year 136AB .316/.422/.412/.834 so he could be a possible platoon partner for Bay (or JE) who has been struggling against LHP. He is also doing pretty well away from Petco 196AB .316/.405/.449/.854
It also give them another guy, like Casey, who doesn't K much, that can come in off the bench and grind away at a reliever.
It also give them another guy, like Casey, who doesn't K much, that can come in off the bench and grind away at a reliever.
Does anyone happen to know what other teams he can veto a trade to?
QUOTE(DominusNovus @ Aug 7 2008, 10:17 PM)
Does anyone happen to know what other teams he can veto a trade to?
Giles can block deals to the Orioles, Red Sox, Tigers, Rays, Marlins, Brewers, Pirates, and Nationals.
QUOTE(Renton @ Aug 7 2008, 11:27 PM)
Giles can block deals to the Orioles, Red Sox, Tigers, Rays, Marlins, Brewers, Pirates, and Nationals.
One of these teams is not like the others (really both the Sox and Tigers, but the song doesn't say two)....
Not sure I like it. If I'm correct he has a $9M option for next season - and that's a bit too much for a 4th/5th OF. Not only that, but I'd rather we work on improving ourselves by acquiring new players rather than acquiring to keep away from other teams. That's never a smart move in my book. But anyway.
EDIT: Just realized we could get rid of Coco. I suddenly like the move. Please ignore my previous ramblings.
EDIT: Just realized we could get rid of Coco. I suddenly like the move. Please ignore my previous ramblings.
QUOTE(Santoshalper @ Aug 7 2008, 11:52 PM)
Not sure I like it. If I'm correct he has a $9M option for next season - and that's a bit too much for a 4th/5th OF. Not only that, but I'd rather we work on improving ourselves by acquiring new players rather than acquiring to keep away from other teams. That's never a smart move in my book. But anyway.
EDIT: Just realized we could get rid of Coco. I suddenly like the move. Please ignore my previous ramblings.
EDIT: Just realized we could get rid of Coco. I suddenly like the move. Please ignore my previous ramblings.
We don't have to actually get him to block him from moving. By claiming him we have a 48-hour exclusive negotiating window. If we get him, then fine, if we don't then he hasn't cleared waivers and is ineligible to be traded to another team.
Stupid ESPN. On baseball tonight the guy says "Another AL East team makes a move, the Red Sox get Brian Giles" -- and I say 'YES!' Then the moron says, 'well basically they've got him'
No they dont you moron... they still kind of, you know, have to actually make the trade
Jim Palmer just said "a happy moose is a healthy moose'... gay.
No they dont you moron... they still kind of, you know, have to actually make the trade
Jim Palmer just said "a happy moose is a healthy moose'... gay.
The defensive metrics still really like Giles for whatever that's worth.
QUOTE(Santoshalper @ Aug 7 2008, 08:52 PM)
Not sure I like it. If I'm correct he has a $9M option for next season - . ...
just fyi, it's a team option
QUOTE(Soxfan4747 @ Aug 8 2008, 12:03 AM)
The defensive metrics still really like Giles for whatever that's worth.
Not much. He has lost the little speed he once had.
MY EYES ARE LYING TO ME HE'S SO AWESOME BECAUSE THE METRICS SAY SO! I SUCK.
Hypo:
L: Giles-RF .295 .390 .423 .813 (61 BB 44 Ks)
R: Pedroia-2B .316 .361 .450 .811
L: Ortiz-DH .252 .349 .461 .810
R: Youk-1B .317 .385 .560 .945
L: Drew-CF.286 .408 .539 .947
R: Bay-LF .291 .382 .530 .912
R: Lowell-3B .273 .336 .450 .786
S: Lowrie-SS .287 .345 .426 .771
S: Varitek-C .220 .310 .355 .665
Pretty quickly you have an great lineup.
L: Giles-RF .295 .390 .423 .813 (61 BB 44 Ks)
R: Pedroia-2B .316 .361 .450 .811
L: Ortiz-DH .252 .349 .461 .810
R: Youk-1B .317 .385 .560 .945
L: Drew-CF.286 .408 .539 .947
R: Bay-LF .291 .382 .530 .912
R: Lowell-3B .273 .336 .450 .786
S: Lowrie-SS .287 .345 .426 .771
S: Varitek-C .220 .310 .355 .665
Pretty quickly you have an great lineup.
QUOTE(SoxFanPJ @ Aug 8 2008, 12:50 AM)
Hypo:
L: Giles-RF .295 .390 .423 .813 (61 BB 44 Ks)
R: Pedroia-2B .316 .361 .450 .811
L: Ortiz-DH .252 .349 .461 .810
R: Youk-1B .317 .385 .560 .945
L: Drew-CF.286 .408 .539 .947
R: Bay-LF .291 .382 .530 .912
R: Lowell-3B .273 .336 .450 .786
S: Lowrie-SS .287 .345 .426 .771
S: Varitek-C .220 .310 .355 .665
Pretty quickly you have an great lineup.
L: Giles-RF .295 .390 .423 .813 (61 BB 44 Ks)
R: Pedroia-2B .316 .361 .450 .811
L: Ortiz-DH .252 .349 .461 .810
R: Youk-1B .317 .385 .560 .945
L: Drew-CF.286 .408 .539 .947
R: Bay-LF .291 .382 .530 .912
R: Lowell-3B .273 .336 .450 .786
S: Lowrie-SS .287 .345 .426 .771
S: Varitek-C .220 .310 .355 .665
Pretty quickly you have an great lineup.
That's a ****inng great lineup. I love it.
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Drunk.
I guess Im full of s***. All the defensive numbers make it look like Giles would be fine in RF. Actually, a plus defender there.
QUOTE(SoxFanPJ @ Aug 8 2008, 01:50 AM)
Hypo:
L: Giles-RF .295 .390 .423 .813 (61 BB 44 Ks)
R: Pedroia-2B .316 .361 .450 .811
L: Ortiz-DH .252 .349 .461 .810
R: Youk-1B .317 .385 .560 .945
L: Drew-CF.286 .408 .539 .947
R: Bay-LF .291 .382 .530 .912
R: Lowell-3B .273 .336 .450 .786
S: Lowrie-SS .287 .345 .426 .771
S: Varitek-C .220 .310 .355 .665
Pretty quickly you have an great lineup.
L: Giles-RF .295 .390 .423 .813 (61 BB 44 Ks)
R: Pedroia-2B .316 .361 .450 .811
L: Ortiz-DH .252 .349 .461 .810
R: Youk-1B .317 .385 .560 .945
L: Drew-CF.286 .408 .539 .947
R: Bay-LF .291 .382 .530 .912
R: Lowell-3B .273 .336 .450 .786
S: Lowrie-SS .287 .345 .426 .771
S: Varitek-C .220 .310 .355 .665
Pretty quickly you have an great lineup.
It would be awesome if we had a catcher who could hit
QUOTE(vicocala @ Aug 8 2008, 03:29 AM)
It would be awesome if we had a catcher who could hit
No better time to make Ellsbury the best left-handed catcher since Jack Clements.
You look at Papi in that lineup with an .810 OPS, and you figure something might be wrong. If they get Giles, I would not be surprised if Papi goes on the DL.
I think its as simple as sending Ellsbury down for 3 weeks to work on his hitting and coming up when rosters expand. If the Sox are gonna pay that kind of coin to rent Giles, he's going to be starting in RF with Drew in CF and Coco as the defensive replacement. Theo is trying to bolster the lineup for the stretch run, and get the lineup down to one hole (Varitek.)
On a side note, if we acquire Giles, I wonder if the Sox would have the balls to let Giles wear #24, his current number.
On a side note, if we acquire Giles, I wonder if the Sox would have the balls to let Giles wear #24, his current number.
QUOTE(bosockboy @ Aug 8 2008, 09:56 AM)
I think its as simple as sending Ellsbury down for 3 weeks to work on his hitting and coming up when rosters expand. If the Sox are gonna pay that kind of coin to rent Giles, he's going to be starting in RF with Drew in CF and Coco as the defensive replacement. Theo is trying to bolster the lineup for the stretch run, and get the lineup down to one hole (Varitek.)
On a side note, if we acquire Giles, I wonder if the Sox would have the balls to let Giles wear #24, his current number.
On a side note, if we acquire Giles, I wonder if the Sox would have the balls to let Giles wear #24, his current number.
That was my thought this morning too?!
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