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unhsox17
Pitcher
Sarasota
Born: February 16, 1982
Height: 6-2 Weight: 190
Bats: Right Throws: Right
Drafted: 2nd Round, 2000
Origin: Hyde Park, MA

Scouting Report: Boston native always dreamed of playing for the Sox. His career was on the fast track with a
mid 90s fastball, and a great curveball - until he injured himself in May 2003. Delcarmen had Tommy John surgery in May,
which typically requires 12 to 18 months recovery time. He is still young enough to recover and put himself back on track.

ETA: 2007

Here's a good article on Manny, but keep in mind this was written just prior to him going down with his elbow injury:
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He's at least a couple of years away from Fenway Park, but local product Manny Delcarmen has taken a giant step forward this young season.

The Boston native returned home this winter knowing his future as a major league prospect hinged on his ability to develop a changeup. Judging from his spectacular start for Sarasota of the Single A Florida State League, his hard work has paid off.

Until allowing a solo homer in the ninth inning two nights ago, Delcarmen had pitched 15 shutout innings in his last two starts, striking out 16. He previously allowed two hits over seven shutout innings and struck out 11 in a 2-0 victory over Vero Beach.

He's 1-0 with a 1.86 ERA. His performance is the talk of the Red Sox minor league offices, and for good reason.

"He's come a long way in a short time and it's great to see," said Goose Gregson, Boston's minor league pitching coordinator who has filled in for Tony Cloninger as Red Sox pitching coach. "Seeing the reports has warmed my heart."

A second round pick in 2000 out of West Roxbury, Delcarmen has slowly risen through the system. He went 7-8 with a 4.10 ERA at Augusta last year, striking out 136 in 136 innings. He clearly had room to improve.

He already possessed a 94 mph fastball and plus curveball, but the power right-hander needed a changeup.

"Sometimes it's hard to convince a young pitcher to use the pitch early in his career," Gregson said. "To be a more complete pitcher, especially if you want to be a big league starter, you need that third pitch."

The natural choice for Delcarmen was a change, which he never needed while firing fastballs past overmatched Boston high schoolers. Delcarmen spent his winter working at Mo Vaughn's Hitdog Training Center in Stoughton, trying to develop a feel for the grip.

Last year he often tipped his change by slowing his arm speed. This year, his arm action more closely approximates that of his fastball and curveball.

"There is no one way to throw a changeup," Gregson said. "If you talk to five guys who throw one, you might see five different grips. The most important thing to remember is that a changeup is just a fastball with a different grip."

Delcarmen made his biggest strides this spring, and the results were obvious. The Red Sox make their minor leaguers throw exclusively fastballs and changeups during the spring and something clicked.

"Early on I was umpiring behind the mound, and it was almost like a light came on," Gregson said. "He started using the changeup almost to the point of overuse, but he's got a tremendous feel for it now. It's only going to make him more valuable as a pitcher."

The season started on a down note for Delcarmen, who was suspended for the first three games for an infraction farm director Ben Cherington would not disclose.

He debuted April 6 and took a no-decision in a 6-4 victory over the Fort Myers Miracle, allowing three runs. He then hit his stride five days later against Vero Beach, striking out 11 in seven shutout innings.

"We weren't surprised, but we were pleased," said Cherington. "He threw all three of his pitches any time he wanted for strikes. He didn't miss more than four or five times."

He owes much of his early success to the changeup.

"The credit goes to him," Cherington said. "He recognized the pitch would give him a better opportunity to be a starter in the big leagues. Sometimes it's just a matter of holding the ball in your hand long enough to get comfortable with how it feels."

The Red Sox are in no rush to promote Delcarmen. "We have to keep in perspective that it's only two starts," general manager Theo Epstein said. "But it's certainly encouraging."

The Red Sox have not advanced a major league caliber pitching prospect past Double A since Tomo Ohka. While Delcarmen still has hurdles to overcome in Double and Triple A, he has emerged as the team's top pitching prospect.

"There's been something for Manny to learn at each stage," Cherington said. "This year it's the changeup. So far early this season, he's been able to use it whenever he wants."


After his TJ surgery, which typically requires 12-18 months recovery time, Manny should return to the mound by May or June 2004, but management may wait until later in the season if they want to make sure the surgery has fully healed and give Manny the full go in 2005. Despite the surgery, expect Manny to regain his mid-90s fastball.
unhsox17
Here's a clip from Jim Callis's BA chat about Manny's rehab:

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How is Manny Delcarmen's rehab coming? Is he still looking like the stud he was before he got hurt?

Jim Callis: Going well, and he should be back on the mound before the end of the season. He was turning the corner before he blew out his elbow, and he has worked hard to come back from Tommy John surgery. The track record for that operation is pretty good, so there's cause for optimism
r00fer
Update via Jeff Horrigan (2/17 Notes):
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Hyde Park native Manny Delcarmen, who underwent Tommy John surgery on his right elbow May 5, hopes to return to a bullpen mound on March 1.

``I'm feeling great,'' he said. ``I think I'll be ready to go by the start of the season, but that will be up to the organization.''

Delcarmen, who celebrated his 22nd birthday yesterday, also had surgery on his left shoulder on Dec. 9 to tighten ligaments. . . .

LINK: bostonherald.com
ComandoEep
Hmm, I hadn't heard about the second surgery. Good thing it's not on his throwing elbow. BTW all seeing Yahoo! start fantasy baseball is really getting me back into the swing of things, I'll try and seal the deal on these released prospects momentarily
BoSoxGirl75
Link

Delcarmen starts fresh: Sox prospect back from surgery
By Michael Silverman
Tuesday, March 16, 2004

FORT MYERS - The ties to Hyde Park, Jamaica Plain and Brockton have been loosened now that Manny Delcarmen's parents have moved back to the Dominican Republic, but the 22-year-old West Roxbury High graduate is back on track for rebuilding his link to Boston.

``I'm like a month and a half ahead of schedule - I feel like I'm normal,'' Delcarmen said yesterday at the Red Sox [stats, schedule]' minor league complex, where he has been based since last May's Tommy John surgery on his right elbow. ``I start throwing batting practice for the first time (since the surgery) to live hitters (tomorrow). I pitched yesterday and I feel great. I'm in better shape now than I was four years ago. Strong-wise, I feel normal throwing the ball.''

The procedure usually demands at least 12 months, sometimes even 18, to rehabilitate, but Delcarmen might be ready to pitch for Single-A Sarasota on Opening Day. Whether he debuts in early April or later in the month, Delcarmen's comeback is a big step for one of the most highly regarded pitchers in the Red Sox' system.

The organization did not want Delcarmen to rehab in the frigid New England weather this winter, a decision Delcarmen did not resist. He visited home for a week at Thanksgiving and a couple of weeks at Christmas and New Year's, but Delcarmen has been diligent about doing the necessary arm exercises and running to strengthen his lower body.

He has filled his 6-foot-2 frame since becoming the Sox' second pick in the 2000 draft, and as long as his arm strength keeps getting better the team will not place restrictions on Delcarmen.

``Manny has busted his ass - he's worked hard and he's ahead of schedule,'' said Ben Cherington, the Red Sox' director of player development. ``We're taking him slow, but his arm strength looks really good. One of the things that can happen with Tommy John rehab, you have 10 months of doing arm exercises and so when you do come back, a lot of times, if it's gone the right way and you've worked hard like Manny has, then sometimes you're in better shape and your arm is, too.

``He has approached his rehab from Tommy John about as well as you can, and now we're seeing the results.''

Before the surgery, Delcarmen was throwing his fastball at more than 90 miles per hour, and there is nothing to suggest that he can't reach the mid-90s again or even throw harder.

He throws two fastballs - a two-seam pitch and a four-seam pitch - in addition to a curveball and changeup. All three pitches, Cherington said, have ``a chance to be above-average pitches,'' including the changeup, which Delcarmen picked up last spring. In 41 minor league appearances, Delcarmen has a 3.64 ERA with 214 strikeouts and 82 walks in 206 innings.

Resuming work on his changeup is as important to Delcarmen as any aspect of his comeback, since a third pitch will be critical to his rise through the system. The fact he blew out his elbow while throwing the new changeup is just another motivating factor in his rehab.

``I'm just trying to get back, little by little,'' Delcarmen said. ``What hurt me the most, after my Augusta year (2002) was that I didn't really have a good changeup, I couldn't keep it down. After Augusta, I worked on my changeup all winter.

``Then I come to spring training and they're surprised that I have a changeup. In Sarasota (last year), my elbow gave up on a changeup. When I met with the Red Sox they felt bad because they said it must have been very emotional working on my changeup and then getting hurt on the changeup because they kept having me throw it and throw it.''

Delcarmen simply is thrilled to be throwing again, never mind the fact he is throwing all his pitches with ease and comfort.

``I'm real excited to be able to throw the ball again and not have any trouble,'' Delcarmen said. ``I'm throwing everything.''
unhsox17
Sorry for the delay on this one....

Manny Delcarmen made his much anticipated return to the mound on Saturday May 15--his first start since undergoing Tommy John surgery last May. He only pitched 3 innings, but he was lights out, allowing 0 hits, 0 runs, and striking out 4 while walking just 1.

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                IP   H R ER BB SO HR  ERA
Manny Delcarmen  3.0  0 0  0  1  4  0 0.00


It will be interesting to see how much the Sox management will push Manny as he returns to full-time pitching. They will probably bring him back slowly...only allowing him to pitch 3 or 4 inning stints or else providing extended time off between starts to make sure his elbow isn't being too stressed.
Pudge27
Verrrrry nice...here's to a long healthy career and many wins in Fenway! Maybe Manny'll take my mind off the fact we never got another great local hurler in Glavine.
unhsox17
Manny has been strictly limited to 3 inning outings this year as the Sox do not want to overuse him in his first season back from Tommy John surgery. His numbers this year may not be that stellar, but you can basically throw them under the rug and just concentrate on his health and how he is throwing the ball. His stats through 7/8 are:

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W L SV  ERA   G  IP  H  R  ER  BB  KO HR
0 4  0 6.07  10 29.2 35 23 20  13  34  5


Manny has been getting hit fairly often thus far, WHIP = 1.61, which would explain the 6+ ERA. Also the 5 HR allowed in just 29 innings are not too pleasing. However, his strikeout numbers are encouraging...

K/IP=1.15
K/BB=2.62
K/9IP=10.3

The good news is that Manny's velocity is still there as he is throwing his fastball in the mid 90's.
Naehring Nirvana
Well I don't know who "unhsox" is (I guess some guy who went to UNH???) but I figured with all the talk of acquiring arms for the bullpen (no I'm not advocating Cla Meredithing him now) Manny Delcarmen needs some attention...


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Manny Delcarmen: Individual Stats (Pitching)
Team              W L ERA  G GS CG SHO SV IP   H  R ER HR BB SO  
Portland Sea Dogs 4 3 3.68 19 0  0  0   1 22.0 19 17 9  1 13 27


Not bad so far. The walks need to go down. Among his top 20 comparable pitchers PECOTA includes Danny Kolb (eh) Jose Acevedo, Grant Balfour, Ugueth Urbina, and Eric Gagne!
Naehring Nirvana
Here's Delcarmen's pitching line for 6/2 vs. New Hampshire... where are you now, UNH??? laugh.gif He seems to be the set-up man for Deschenes... Hmmm... why are they using him in middle relief??? laugh.gif

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Portland              IP   H  R ER BB SO HR  ERA
Delcarmen (H, 2)      2.0  0  0  0  1  3  0  3.68
raylaw21
Manny has been called up to Pawtucket
wouldn't surprised me to see him in boston by Sept
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mikee293
so if u were Theo do you call up Papelbon or Manny up first (or someone else, or not at all?)

Personally I'd put Papelbon in a middle/long relief role and if he does well then gradually slide him into the 'ol Alan Embree slot....the 7th inning setup guy.
BostonSox37
QUOTE(raylaw21 @ Jul 6 2005, 04:20 AM)
Manny has been called up to Pawtucket
wouldn't surprised me to see him in boston by Sept
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Confirmed:

http://soxprospects.blogspot.com/


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Boston Native One Step from the Show


West Roxbury native Manny Delcarmen earned a promotion to AAA Pawtucket late last night. Delcarmen is now one step away from realizing his lifelong dream of playing for his hometown Boston Red Sox. In 2005, Delcarmen has logged 39 innings in a total of 31 games. He is 4-4 with a 3.23 ERA, and a 49/20 K/BB ratio.
Harry Bobbin Manass
Delcarmen came out with both guns blazing in his PawSox debut tonight. He struck out 5 in 2 innings and didn't allow a hit or a run. He did walk a batter and hit one, too.
Harry Bobbin Manass
Delcarmen is making a case for a shot at helping the Boston bullpen later this year. He struck out 4 in 2 IP in his second AAA appearance last night.

That's 9 Ks and 0 ER in his first 4 IP for the PawSox.

If anybody has actually seen either of these two appearances in person, I'd be interested to hear how he's getting people out -- is he blowing his fastball by these guys or is he using his secondary pitches?
gerky
Any word from the radar gun? I heard that he's been hitting the high 90's with his fastball since recovering from TJ surgery. With the amount of K's, it's probably pretty obvious, but I'm curious.
Harry Bobbin Manass
QUOTE(gerky @ Jul 11 2005, 09:55 AM)
Any word from the radar gun?  I heard that he's been hitting the high 90's with his fastball since recovering from TJ surgery.  With the amount of K's, it's probably pretty obvious, but I'm curious.
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From the ProJo:


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Delcarmen made his second career Triple-A appearance, allowed one hit and fanned four. In four innings since joining Pawtucket on July 6, he has nine whiffs on his stat sheet. And he consistently hit 95 on the gun , especially on high, tight fastballs.

"He throws real hard," said Johnson. "What I was impressed with was, after he cruised through the (sixth inning), in his second inning his command got a little bit below -- but all of a sudden he was able to slow himself down and make good pitches. The next thing you know, he's punching out two guys to get out of the inning.

"There are very few guys who are going to get to his fastball that's up and in."

SoxFan24
Thats good that he is consitantly hitting 95. I've seen newspaper articles from the Portland Press Herald, when he was with the Sea Dogs, that we was touching 98.
Pudge27
Recent article by Snow said if he can get his control down he'll be up either this year or next. LOVE to see a surfeit of quality young arms in my team's system!
dag2000
QUOTE(SoxFan24 @ Jul 11 2005, 10:55 AM)
Thats good that he is consitantly hitting 95.  I've seen newspaper articles from the Portland Press Herald, when he was with the Sea Dogs, that we was touching 98.
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On WEEI today, Steve Buckley said he was hitting 97, 98 on the gun recently.
W.A. Cummings
I went to the Pawtucket game tonight. Manny was consistently at 97 and touched 99 (the croud erupted) and the gun wasn't juiced.
dag2000
QUOTE(W.A. Cummings @ Jul 19 2005, 12:08 AM)
I went to the Pawtucket game tonight. Manny was consistently at 97 and touched 99 (the croud erupted) and the gun wasn't juiced.
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<Sproing!!!>
Naehring Nirvana
It looks like Theo has his sixth untouchable prospect...
Jack Hayden
Boy, it's too bad the big club doesn't need any relief pitchers who can tickle 99 and currently sport 5:1 k/bb ratios and a .197 BAA in AAA. Given, in only 7 innings, but if he does this for another couple of weeks you have to give him a shot in the bigs.
RedSoxAnni
Joe McDonald - ProJo - PawSox' Delcarmen could be on fast track to the majors


PAWTUCKET -- Manny Delcarmen's pitching has been described as dirty, nasty and soiled, similar to Pig Pen, the character in the Peanuts cartoon.

Fortunately for the 23-year-old right-handed pitching prospect for the Boston Red Sox, that's meant to be a compliment. Whereas Pig Pen is always surrounded by a cloud of dust, Delcarmen has an aura of confidence.

"Get rid of the cloud of filth and put the words confidence all inside that cloud," said PawSox pitching coach Mike Griffin. "He doesn't come out and talk it, he shows it."

Delcarmen, a Hyde Park, Mass., native, is well spoken. He's intelligent and has a genuine love for his craft. The only thing missing is a trip to the majors and the opportunity to pitch in front of the hometown crowd at Fenway Park. He admits that he's probably sat in almost every section at Fenway and there's only one more spot he would like to try -- the mound.

The Ghost of Ned Martin
QUOTE(RedSoxAnni @ Jul 22 2005, 12:44 PM)

Delcarmen, a Hyde Park, Mass., native, is well spoken. He's intelligent and has a genuine love for his craft. The only thing missing is a trip to the majors and the opportunity to pitch in front of the hometown crowd at Fenway Park. He admits that he's probably sat in almost every section at Fenway and there's only one more spot he would like to try -- the mound.[/color]
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He was interviewed on the Big Show on EEI last night and seems to be a very articulate, bright and confident kid who wants nothing more than to be wearing the
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He is doing well thus far in AAA and he may soon get his wish.
gerky
I heard on one of the local news stations tonight that Delcarman would be called up on Tuesday or Wednesday. The TV was on in the background and I was only half-listening but this caught my ear. Has anyone heard anything about this yet? It didn't sound like just speculation.
SoxFan24
No link yet, but it appears Delcarmen has been called up to the majors, per SOSH.
Naehring Nirvana
QUOTE(SoxFan24 @ Jul 25 2005, 07:46 PM)
No link yet, but it appears Delcarmen has been called up to the majors, per SOSH.
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As of when? Seems like an odd time to call him up, during a game, especially when the Sox are in Tampa Bay???
HangingCurve
I think this would be the perfect time to bring him up. Sox in TB. Need some bullpen help.
chrisgeleven
QUOTE(Naehring Nirvana @ Jul 25 2005, 09:58 PM)
As of when?  Seems like an odd time to call him up, during a game, especially when the Sox are in Tampa Bay???
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According to SOSH, WHDH said Manny will be called up either Tuesday or Wednesday.

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showtopic=15137
Naehring Nirvana
QUOTE(HangingCurve @ Jul 25 2005, 10:05 PM)
I think this would be the perfect time to bring him up.  Sox in TB.  Need some bullpen help.
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OK, it's the ninth inning, where's Delcarmen? I guess he hasn't been called up yet.
chrisgeleven
It looks like tonight it is going to happen. Welcome to the big show Manny!

http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view...articleid=95283

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds...or_move?mode=PF
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Manny Delcarmen, the righthanded reliever from Hyde Park with the mid-90s fastball and dynamic 12-to-6 curveball, was in Boston last night preparing to fly out this morning to join the Red Sox for his first stint in the majors.

The 23-year-old Delcarmen, who in 2000 became the first player selected out of a Boston high school by a major league team in 34 years, was recently promoted from Double A Portland to Triple A Pawtucket. In six appearances with the PawSox Delcarmen pitched nine innings, striking out 12 and walking four while compiling a 3.00 ERA.

Delcarmen's recall will be made official today.
Bozzs
QUOTE(chrisgeleven @ Jul 26 2005, 06:40 AM)
It looks like tonight it is going to happen. Welcome to the big show Manny!

http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view...articleid=95283

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds...or_move?mode=PF
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woo hoo ~!

bye bye HALAMAMAMA !
Hello Manny ! Good Luck !!
RedSoxAnni
Good feature on "the other Manny" in this morning's Globe:


Michael Levenson - Hyde Park friends excited by pitcher's debut for Red Sox


Buzz was everywhere, at the River Street auto shops, the food mart, the luncheonette counter at the drug store. Did you see the hurler with the high-90s fastball? He's one of ours.

All around Hyde Park yesterday, residents brimmed with pride in the rise of Manny Delcarmen, an emerging baseball phenom who went from pitching outside his father's auto body shop to making his Red Sox debut Tuesday night against the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.
Harry Bobbin Manass
I thought this was funny in today's Globe:

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One of the great things about youth is the unpredictability that accompanies it. Take Sunday's game, when manager Terry Francona went to the mound to give Delcarmen the hook. ''I went to get the ball and he shook my hand," Francona said. ''I kind of liked that. Some guys are throwing their hands up, he's running for mayor. That's OK."


Harry Bobbin Manass
Manny D. is making a case for a spot in the Boston bullpen this summer.

After his outing this morning, he's pitched 10 scoreless innings to start the season, allowing only 4 hits and 3 walks, while striking out 10.
jsinger121
MDC called up to Boston after Saturday's game.
Harry Bobbin Manass
Delcarmen was recalled to Boston today with Timlin going on the DL. Since he was optioned to Pawtucket on May 7 after his first stint in Boston this season, Manny struggled a little: 7 IP, 4 hits, 4 ER, 3 BB, 9 Ks.

For the season in AAA:

IP: 17
ERA: 2.12
H: 9
ER: 4
BB: 6
K: 19

He appeared in 4 games for the Red Sox earlier this year and had a 9.82 ERA in 3.2 IP.
nomarfan1997
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Delcarmen was recalled to Boston today with Timlin going on the DL. Since he was optioned to Pawtucket on May 7 after his first stint in Boston this season, Manny struggled a little: 7 IP, 4 hits, 4 ER, 3 BB, 9 Ks.

For the season in AAA:

IP: 17
ERA: 2.12
H: 9
ER: 4
BB: 6
K: 19

He appeared in 4 games for the Red Sox earlier this year and had a 9.82 ERA in 3.2 IP.

Good luck to Manny. Gotta pull for the local kid. Met him at ST this year; he took his time while signing for everyone in sight, chatting it up in a genuine manner. Signed balls for each of my kids. A Class act.

In my amateur opinion, his fastball looks a little straight at times, so perhaps he can learn a cutter to put him over the top.
john dopson
couldn't figure out why he was up in the 9th today if they clearly had no plans to use him..
Tavarez couldn't throw a strike.
gerky
Manny officially becomes an MLB rookie tomorrow assuming he remains on the roster.
Harry Bobbin Manass
QUOTE(gerky @ Jun 8 2006, 11:20 AM) [snapback]530953[/snapback]

Manny officially becomes an MLB rookie tomorrow assuming he remains on the roster.

Not sure what you mean by that. Can you explain?
Nomars Last Twitch
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Not sure what you mean by that. Can you explain?


He means that Manny would not be considered a prospect anymore, in tems of our prospect rankings, etc.
Harry Bobbin Manass
So that was a comment about next offseason's prospect lists? Ok. That went right over my head. Wouldn't that mean he's no longer a "rookie," as opposed to saying he has just become a rookie?
Harry Bobbin Manass
Delcarmen, whom the Sox hope can help the big club later this year, has been a little erratic for the PawSox to open the 2007 campaign. After giving up a couple of runs in his season-opening appearance, Delcarmen has been unscored upon in his next two. He as 10 Ks in 6 IP, while allowing 4 hits and walking 3. His ERA stands at 3.00.
Harry Bobbin Manass
Delcarmen gave up 4 runs in two-thirds of an inning on April 20, which is going to skew his ERA for a while. He's currently at 5.79 but has 14 Ks in 9.1 IP for the PawSox. He's only been scored upon in one of his other 5 appearances.
RedSoxAnni
From the May 4 ProJo:

Kevin McNamara - Road back to the majors looks long for Delcarmen

Delcarmen hasn’t helped his case this season. He’s off to a slow start, even though his trademark ability to strike batters out is still intact. Yesterday provided the perfect example. He came on in the 10th inning of a 7-7 game and struck out the side with “just nasty, filthy stuff,” according to Pawtucket manager Ron Johnson. But Delcarmen also uncorked two wild pitches that pushed two runs across and gave Indianapolis a 9-7 victory.

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