2012 Sox Roster Moves Thread
...another one bites the dust
#1
RedSoxAnni
Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:38 PM
So in the past couple of days
Exposito dfa - picked up by Baltimore
Bowden dfa - cleared waivers
Repko to dl
Anderson called up
Marlon Byrd and cash acquired from Cubs for Bowden and PTBNL
Nate Spears dfa to make room for Byrd on 40-man roster
#2
rominer
Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:09 PM
But after a relatively strong spring, Bowden's 3 innings with the Sox this year left him 3rd on the team in ERA and 2nd in WHIP while averaging a strikeout per inning. He was reasonably effective out of the pen when he was called up last year. He was very effective at Pawtucket over the past year and a half after being converted from starter to reliever.
Given that the bullpen has been a complete horror show, I have to wonder if trading a potentially adequate (or better) young reliever for a 34 year old outfielder who is hitting .070 (.219 OPS) – and only has a roster spot for a few weeks until Carl Crawford comes back – was really the correct panic button to hit.
That's not to say that Bowden was going to be "the answer" for a bullpen that needs a lot of answers (and fast). But I would probably rather have given him a few months to earn a bigger role – or kept him in Pawtucket for insurance once he cleared waivers – than shipped him out as part of the ongoing "Theo Epstein screwed the Red Sox" saga.
This post has been edited by rominer: 23 April 2012 - 02:10 PM
#3
The Ghost of Ned Martin
Posted 23 April 2012 - 03:12 PM
rominer, on 23 April 2012 - 02:09 PM, said:
That's not to say that Bowden was going to be "the answer" for a bullpen that needs a lot of answers (and fast). But I would probably rather have given him a few months to earn a bigger role – or kept him in Pawtucket for insurance once he cleared waivers – than shipped him out as part of the ongoing "Theo Epstein screwed the Red Sox" saga.
But Theo is paying most of Byrd's salary.
Austerity, my dear man.
Austerity...It's the new Profligacy.
#6
Manny's PS2
Posted 26 April 2012 - 03:17 PM
#7
Hail Cesar
Posted 26 April 2012 - 03:20 PM
Manny, on 26 April 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:
Bobby V apparently loves himself a lefty specialist. Somebody should have told him, however, that Justin Thomas is not a lefty specialist, but, instead, he's a hitter's dream.
#9
Mike LansWho
Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:27 PM
RP - Justin Thomas optioned to Triple-A Pawtucket
#10
Cudahy
Posted 30 April 2012 - 03:15 PM
If Buchholz struggles for the 5th time today there's gonna be discussion about Cook replacing him for now as one of the starters. Lot of pressure on Buchy today.
A bigger decision will be when Daiske is activated in the next 2 weeks.
Nice problem to have.
#11
rominer
Posted 30 April 2012 - 03:28 PM
Cudahy, on 30 April 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:
Atchison is out of options. Atchison has also been the best pitcher in the bullpen. Whatever move they make to get Cook onto the roster, I would be surprised if it involved Scott Atchison.
#12
Hail Cesar
Posted 30 April 2012 - 04:00 PM
rominer, on 30 April 2012 - 03:28 PM, said:
If you go be performance, I'd say that it would be Padilla, but, they won't go that route. If the Red Sox are going to try to get Cook on the roster, it will either by Lars or Albers who gets sent away.
#13
Mike LansWho
Posted 30 April 2012 - 04:03 PM
#14
Cudahy
Posted 30 April 2012 - 04:21 PM
I've been using an adjusted ERA for many years where the runner at 3rd is charged to the outgoing pitcher, the runner at first is charged to the incoming pitcher and the runner at second is split 50-50.
Using this Atchison's 2.25 ERa becomes 3.75, while Morales's 4.69 becomes 3.52.
Although, since Atchison would have to clear waivers, that's more reason to go back to 13 pitchers.
#15
Hail Cesar
Posted 30 April 2012 - 04:34 PM
Mike LansWho, on 30 April 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:
They will if they don't mind their goose getting Cooked.
Get it? Cook? Cooked? HA!
[cue drumroll and wild laughter]
I'll be here all night, folks.
#sarcasm
#16
rominer
Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:26 PM
Cudahy, on 30 April 2012 - 04:21 PM, said:
I've been using an adjusted ERA for many years where the runner at 3rd is charged to the outgoing pitcher, the runner at first is charged to the incoming pitcher and the runner at second is split 50-50.
Using this Atchison's 2.25 ERa becomes 3.75, while Morales's 4.69 becomes 3.52.
Although, since Atchison would have to clear waivers, that's more reason to go back to 13 pitchers.
Is this adjusted ERA a stat that you devised, or is it a more commonly accepted idea?
The merits of this adjusted ERA for relievers might be an interesting thread of its own. (Or at least it would have been back when there was more baseball talk around here)
In the meantime, though...there are various issues that make a one to one comparison between relievers difficult. Everyone's numbers are skewed, especially at this stage, by sample size. Usage patterns are different. Atchison has been used almost exclusively in (what baseball-reference would define as) medium and low leverage situations (just 1 hi-lev appearance), while Morales has been used exclusively in medium and high leverage situations.
But apart from ERA, however you choose to define it, what I see with Atchison is that he's pitched the most relief innings on the team. He has far and away the best K/BB ratio on the team – a function not just of a low walk rate, but also a reasonably high K rate (slightly better than Morales, in fact). Apart from Tazawa, he has the lowest WHIP on the team – and by a pretty wide margin over the guys that have been used most in critical situations.
When batters are putting the ball in play against him, it has mostly been on the ground. His line drive rate at this point is a minuscule 3% (Morales, by contrast, is giving up line drives 24% of the time, which is a bit scary for a guy who should be missing bats). Giving up solid contact that infrequently ain't gonna happen over a full season, especially for a guy with Atchison's stuff. But it's a pretty good illustration of how well he's pitched to start the year.
#17
BigSlick
Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:46 PM
rominer, on 30 April 2012 - 05:26 PM, said:
The merits of this adjusted ERA for relievers might be an interesting thread of its own.
I like the idea, but it should be taken even further. It would be great if you could work the number of outs when a pitcher comes in to the game as well. For example, a pitcher shouldn't be punished for coming into a game with nobody out and a runner on 2nd if he gives up a ground ball to the right side and a sac fly. However, that same pitcher should be punished if he comes in with 2 outs and a man on 2nd and gives up an RBI single.
#18
Cudahy
Posted 01 May 2012 - 02:20 PM
Morales - 7-2-1
Aceves - 7-3-0
Albers - 5-2-1
Padilla - 5-3-0
Tazawa - 3-2-0
Atchison - 3-4-2
Still no word on Cook. Sounds like they don't have to decide till after tonights game.
#19
Mike LansWho
Posted 01 May 2012 - 03:06 PM
#20
Mike LansWho
Posted 01 May 2012 - 03:43 PM
Tazawa down to AAA
Iglesias up from AAA
Must be for depth with Youkilis and his bad back.

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