[Love of Sox]

I was not sure where to go with this, hence this thread. Ask the questions you were afraid to ask in the more lofty threads here.

Robert Petagine recently played against the Padres and in his unique style, Hall of Famer Jerry Coleman, and his sometime sidekick Tim Flannery referred to him and pronounced his name as Pe-ta-gey-nee, with the ending as in "linguine." Since I saw no Sox games in which he appeared last year and don't get NESN or the local news, was this how Petagine was pronounced? All last season, in my head it was Pe-ta-guyne or Pe-ta-gene.

This post has been edited by Love of Sox: 12 March 2006 - 12:30 AM

[VAsoxfan]

I always thought it was something like "Pet-Agony"

[gerky]

I've always heard it the way you heard it.

[Pede]

It's actually quite simple and accurate:

Pet-A-Genie

[yazgoesbacklooksupitsgone]

Love of Sox, on Mar 9 2006, 03:17 PM, said:

I was not sure where to go with this, hence this thread. Ask the questions you were afraid to ask in the more lofty threads here.

Robert Petagine recently played against the Padres and in his unique style, Hall of Famer Jerry Coleman, and his sometime sidekick Tim Flannery referred to him and pronounced his name as Pe-ta-gey-nee, with the ending as in "linguine." Since I saw no Sox games in which he appeared last year and don't get NESN or the local news, was this how Petagine was pronounced? All last season, in my head it was Pe-ta-guyne or Pe-ta-gene.

Pet-a-genie it is. And I was in the same boat until he was called up midseason and appeared in his first game. I thought it was Pet-a-Jin or something until I heard Orsillo prounced it the first time. Sometimes the sports pages need a pronunciation key.

[steveoh]

Ok, I'll bite...here's another one.

Since most of us have never been it it, does anyone know the sq footage of the Red Sox clubhouse? We hear that it is so small, but compared to what? What is the sq footage of the average baseball clubhouse?

[HardcoreJimmyK]

When a pitcher has no runners on base but then gives up a single, he turns and points to the second baseman/SS before getting ready for his next pitch. I always wondered what this point is all about, I think it has to do with confirming who will cover second in the event of a steal, but somebody verify.

[Sox Sweep Again]

I have one- what happened to Mike Greenwell? I've googled but can't find any thorough details about why his career was so suddenly over.

[Jack Hayden]

Sox Sweep Again, on Mar 10 2006, 11:38 PM, said:

I have one- what happened to Mike Greenwell? I've googled but can't find any thorough details about why his career was so suddenly over.

Greenwell struggled with a bad back with the Sox and really declined in his last few years. He signed with a Japanese club and announced after only seven games, now with a broken foot, that God had told him to retire. The Japanese were pissed. He attempted a comeback in 1997 spring training when he was the hitting coach with the Reds' AA affiliate, though I don't think it went very far or lasted very long. There was a point, however, when he was shagging flies and taking BP with Austin Kearns and Adam Dunn while also teaching them how to hit.

[john dopson]

HardcoreJimmyK, on Mar 10 2006, 10:32 PM, said:

When a pitcher has no runners on base but then gives up a single, he turns and points to the second baseman/SS before getting ready for his next pitch. I always wondered what this point is all about, I think it has to do with confirming who will cover second in the event of a steal, but somebody verify.

He's asking who'll cover 2nd on a comebacker/potential double-play ball.

steveoh, on Mar 10 2006, 09:56 PM, said:

Ok, I'll bite...here's another one.

Since most of us have never been it it, does anyone know the sq footage of the Red Sox clubhouse? We hear that it is so small, but compared to what? What is the sq footage of the average baseball clubhouse?

it's about the size of a typical 1-BR apt, if you knocked down all the walls.

most of the newer parks have huge clubhouses, and I mean HUGE.

the one at Coors Field is like a hotel ballroom, but much better furnished.
I remember Jim Leyland complaining that it was TOO big and everyone was too far apart.
of course, that didn't stop him from sleeping there a few nights.

[kylexray]

HardcoreJimmyK, on Mar 10 2006, 10:32 PM, said:

When a pitcher has no runners on base but then gives up a single, he turns and points to the second baseman/SS before getting ready for his next pitch. I always wondered what this point is all about, I think it has to do with confirming who will cover second in the event of a steal, but somebody verify.

It is an indication as to whom the pitcher is going with to turn a double-play. If he points to the second baseman, he expects to turn it with him. If he points to the shortstop . . . well you get it.

[yazgoesbacklooksupitsgone]

steveoh, on Mar 10 2006, 10:56 PM, said:

Ok, I'll bite...here's another one.

Since most of us have never been it it, does anyone know the sq footage of the Red Sox clubhouse? We hear that it is so small, but compared to what? What is the sq footage of the average baseball clubhouse?

here's the final paragraph from a Globe article (11/24/04) on the offseason renovation to Fenway:

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds..._fenway_bright/

Quote

For the players, other perks include renovations to the clubhouse such as a new batting cage and a large tunnel linking the clubhouse and the field. When all the construction is done, the clubhouse will have more than doubled in size, to 6,000 square feet. The average Major League clubhouse is about 20,000 square feet, said (Janet Marie Smith, Red Sox vice president of planning and development).

Wow. No wonder the players say they can't escape from the press.

This post has been edited by yazgoesbacklooksupitsgone: 11 March 2006 - 10:15 AM

[steveoh]

Thanks for the clubhouse answers guys! :beer

[Red Sox Fan2]

This is a dumb question that has nothing to do with the Sox but the Seattle Mariners. How can a pitcher and catcher work if neither speak the same language? Does all of the pitch calling come from the coaches? When the pitcher needs to be calmed down does the IF or pitching coach run out every time? I'm curious as to how this would work. Any one have a clue of this?

This post has been edited by Red Sox Fan2: 12 March 2006 - 12:29 AM

[HardcoreJimmyK]

Does anyone know if players get free dip and chew or do they get that on their own?

[MFLetou]

I wish I had a 6,000 sq foot apartment. Or even a 3,000 sq foot apartment.

[HardcoreJimmyK]

What does "rake" mean as a baseball term?

[orrie]

HardcoreJimmyK, on Mar 12 2006, 01:22 AM, said:

What does "rake" mean as a baseball term?

Hit the ball really hard.

Or possibly the player was involved in a landscaping incident with some gardening implements, a piece of string and a small but bad-tempered llama. And then hit the ball really hard.

But don't quote me on the llama bit. Could have been a camel.

This post has been edited by orrie: 12 March 2006 - 01:32 AM

[gerky]

steveoh, on Mar 10 2006, 10:56 PM, said:

Ok, I'll bite...here's another one.

Since most of us have never been it it, does anyone know the sq footage of the Red Sox clubhouse? We hear that it is so small, but compared to what? What is the sq footage of the average baseball clubhouse?

The clubhouse isn't spacious at all to say the least. Here are some photos I took in '04 when I had the opportunity to visit:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/gerky/joe/IM000197.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/gerky/joe/IM000196.jpg

[Nomar93]

Back in the early '90s, the Detroit Red Wings had a pest in the media named Keith Gave. After so many stories bashing them, the players eventually refused to talk to him, and Gave got reassigned.

Logically, if the Red Wings can do it, why can't the Red Sox with Dan Shaughnessy? Is it implausible to just enact a code of silence around the CHB?